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re: Pfilzer vaccine causing bells palsy?
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:43 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:43 pm to lsupride87
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Same reason I got the varicella, flu, and other vaccines
Yup. I get the flu vaccine every year. I also stay up-to-date on my tetanus booster. And back in August, got a boost on my MMR. The only noticeable side effect has been this gargantuan second penis.
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:44 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Phase I trials are in very small populations and while they monitor for side effects (obviously), they're largely geared toward efficacy and getting the dosing and administration right. Phase III is where you get to numbers that give you a statistically significant sample.
But the point stands that those injected 9 months ago still have antibodies.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:46 pm to S1C EM
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But the point stands that those injected 9 months ago still have antibodies.
I don't know the data on that, unless you're saying that you do and it's been confirmed that those Phase I and II patients do still have them.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:50 pm to sgallo3
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:54 pm to sgallo3
This is funny to keep up with.
Some of the people who complain about fear mongering over the virus(which I agree, there is excessive fear-mongering over it). Will proceed to fear monger over the vaccine.
Some of the people who complain about fear mongering over the virus(which I agree, there is excessive fear-mongering over it). Will proceed to fear monger over the vaccine.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:55 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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I don't know the data on that, unless you're saying that you do and it's been confirmed that those Phase I and II patients do still have them.
I'm familiar with three people who were participants. All three had antibodies checked shortly after injection and had them, indicating they were not in a placebo group (though they were not told this at that time). All three have confirmed that they still have them in the last month.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:06 pm to The Pirate King
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So why again should I take a vaccine for a disease that wouldn’t likely affect me and risk getting Bell’s palsy at all?
This was a pretty common viewpoint within the military community for the Anthrax vaccine back in the 90’s... Protect yourself from unlikely exposure and death at the expense of exposing yourself to unknown side effects. The debate was ultimately resolved for us by mandated inoculation.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 1:08 pm to The Pirate King
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The normal incidence of Bell's palsy is roughly 20 people out of 100,000. The Pfizer study examined 38,000 patients, so four cases would be within the normal observed incidence of Bell's palsy."
So why again should I take a vaccine for a disease that wouldn’t likely affect me and risk getting Bell’s palsy at all?
I'm not the greatest guy at math, but from your own quote, it looks like you have a .01% chance of receiving bells palsy from the vaccine. Technically speaking, You have a greater chance, or at least equal chance of dying from the virus, than to receive bells palsy from the vaccine.
Do with that information as you will.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:15 pm to S1C EM
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Except that’s not exactly working. They are finding out that after you get it that immunity is only lasting about 90 days. Except that people jabbed with Moderna's vaccine on March 16th have antibodies to this date.
Boy does your apple juice and my orange juice taste different.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:17 pm to The Pirate King
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So why again should I take a vaccine for a disease that wouldn’t likely affect me and risk getting Bell’s palsy at all?
If you do the math it actually seems to reduce the risk
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:24 pm to Powerman
Don't bring that logic in here.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:27 pm to Salmon
quote:What’s the evidence for the long term effects from the vaccine? It’s not like the virus has even been around for a year here and the vaccine isn’t rushed.
there was no evidence that the vaccine caused the Bells Palsy
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:32 pm to tigergirl10
shut up Walt
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:33 pm to sgallo3
Four people getting Bell's Palsy isn't a significant adverse reaction. People given the placebo also developed it. It's well within the normal rate. More concerning is that people with a history of allergies had adverse reactions to the vaccine.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 11:38 pm
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:40 pm to The Torch
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It will be easy to see who got the shot and who didn't
Easier than giving those not vaccinated stars or triangles to wear
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:41 pm to Salmon
You need to calm down
Posted on 12/12/20 at 12:48 am to Salmon
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"The normal incidence of Bell's palsy is roughly 20 people out of 100,000. The Pfizer study examined 38,000 patients, so four cases would be within the normal observed incidence of Bell's palsy."
Thanks! There is a lot of hysteria out there. But this is an answer to a question I had when I read the title of the post.
Posted on 12/12/20 at 5:57 am to aTmTexas Dillo
You mean I could get cured for covid and look like good ol jr in the process. Sign me up
Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:45 am to sgallo3
1 in 10000 incidence rate of a symptom that isn't life threatening and is transient.
Think of the children!
Think of the children!
Posted on 12/12/20 at 7:51 am to tigergirl10
Don't get the vaccine then Chicken Little. The only corner that was cut in the clinical trials of the vaccine was the federal government's willingness to purchase the entire order right off the bat with no guarantee it would work. These vaccines have already been deployed for a while, everyone has just been waiting on the rubber stamps from the FDA.
But I'm sure you knew all of that already...
But I'm sure you knew all of that already...
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