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re: Pfilzer vaccine causing bells palsy?

Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:48 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:48 am to
I just wouldn't be terribly concerned about it, unless we see a sharp rise in BP in those who receive the vaccine. As it stands, it's pretty par for the course in that size population.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:48 am to
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That is, if you take 100,000 people, over the course of a year approx 20 are likely to develop Bells Palsy. I’m not sure when the first human trials started for the Pfizer vaccine, but it’s certainly not a year. That means that on an annualized basis the incidence of Bells Palsy among those who received the vaccine is higher than the general population. Correlation does not mean a causal relationship, but on the surface it looks like the vaccine increases your chances of developing Bells.


Well it looks like the doctor was actually wrong, in that the normal incidence is somewhere in the 25-35 out of 100k range.

Which if you look at % and compare in a condense timeframe, then the 4 out of 38k would be less than normal incidence.

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Posted by CheEngineer
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:48 am to
Pahahahaha frick that.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:49 am to
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Only problem with that is the normal incidence stats are annualized stats. That is, if you take 100,000 people, over the course of a year approx 20 are likely to develop Bells Palsy.


20/100,000 is 1 out of 5,000

4/38,000 is 1 out of 9,500

So, roughly half of the incident rate of the general population


So in theory, the vaccine helps prevent bells palsy
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:50 am to
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Which if you look at % and compare in a condense timeframe, then the 4 out of 38k would be less than normal incidence.

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Correct

The vaccine helps prevent bells palsy. So people afraid of bells palsy should take it
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:52 am to
Oh crap, Spiro and zeenews.india are my main sources for COVID vaccine news. Gotta be true.
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 10:52 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:52 am to
I can't wait for all the "the vaccine causes Bells Palsy" posts to go along with all the "the vaccine immunity only last 3 months" posts

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:52 am to
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and risk getting Bell’s palsy at all?
it is interesting to see how your brain functions and processes information
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 10:56 am to
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it is interesting to see how your brain functions and processes information


He is slightly special I think
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:17 am to
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You’re basically more likely to get bells from the vaccine than you would be to die from the virus.


Read on internet, must be true!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111173 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:18 am to
I mean the title of this thread should actually be

"Study: Vaccine recipients less likely to get Bells Palsy than those unvaccinated"
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 11:19 am
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:20 am to
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So why again should I take a vaccine for a disease that wouldn’t likely affect me and risk getting Bell’s palsy at all?




It's funny how you're all about the numbers being statistically in your favor.....until you aren't.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:21 am to
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You’re basically more likely to get bells from the vaccine than you would be to die from the virus.



You know how we know you don't math good?
Posted by barry
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:29 am to
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So why again should I take a vaccine for a disease that wouldn’t likely affect me and risk getting Bell’s palsy at all?


because the vaccine also wouldn't likely affect you....
Posted by Yellerhammer5
Member since Oct 2012
11016 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:32 am to
Oh so now all of the sudden people want to be both safe from covid AND able to move both sides of their face? Talk about moving the goalposts.
Posted by TheDeathValley
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:34 am to
True or not, people will run with this for eternity as a reason not to get the vaccine.
Posted by LSUtiger89
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
4695 posts
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:37 am to
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herd immunity its pretty cool


Except that’s not exactly working. They are finding out that after you get it that immunity is only lasting about 90 days.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:37 am to
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I can't wait for all the "the vaccine causes Bells Palsy" posts to go along with all the "the vaccine immunity only last 3 months" posts



Considering a good chunk of this board has double-downed on stupid when it comes to this vaccine have the popcorn ready
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:39 am to
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Dear FaceDroop
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:39 am to
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Except that’s not exactly working. They are finding out that after you get it that immunity is only lasting about 90 days.


see?!

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