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re: Pfilzer vaccine causing bells palsy?
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:40 am to LSUtiger89
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:40 am to LSUtiger89
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Except that’s not exactly working. They are finding out that after you get it that immunity is only lasting about 90 days.
No, no they aren’t
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Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:41 am to Bruco
its amazing how false info spreads
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:42 am to LSUtiger89
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Except that’s not exactly working. They are finding out that after you get it that immunity is only lasting about 90 days.
This is from a far-right news organization but they are saying "at least 119 days" for right now.
COVID Vaccine will protect for...
Fauci himself said "If Covid-19 acts like other coronaviruses, "it likely isn't going to be a long duration of immunity," Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases"
Fauci statement in June
..but what do I know? I am just a knuckle-dragging mouth-breathing neanderthal who is questioning the vaccine.
EDIT: 3 downvotes in a matter of minutes, where was I wrong?
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 11:45 am
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:47 am to bad93ex
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but what do I know? I am just a knuckle-dragging mouth-breathing neanderthal who is questioning the vaccine.
Sigh.... explain to me how they can say with certainty that the response will last longer when the people who have received only received it 3 months ago?
The report says that since they received the vaccine there has only been a modest drop off and immunity remains.
That’s GOOD NEWS
This post was edited on 12/11/20 at 11:47 am
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:48 am to Bruco
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Sigh.... explain to me how they can say with certainty that the response will last longer when the people who have received only received it 3 months ago?
Their experience with other vaccines?
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:50 am to sgallo3
Legit gives you the NPC look
Posted on 12/11/20 at 11:57 am to Yellerhammer5
quote:Then they should def take the vaccine
Oh so now all of the sudden people want to be both safe from covid AND able to move both sides of their face
Vaccine protects against covid, and lowers your chances of getting bells palsy according to study in OP
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:02 pm to lsupride87
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Vaccine protects against covid, and lowers your chances of getting bells palsy according to study in OP
Except for the FDA reporting "Bell’s palsy was reported by four vaccine participants and none in the placebo group."
Snopes on BP and COVID vaccine
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:06 pm to bad93ex
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Except for the FDA reporting "Bell’s palsy was reported by four vaccine participants and none in the placebo group."
Let me do the math for you
1 out of 9,500 vaccine recipients got bells palsy
1 out of 2,000 people who have never received a covid-19 vaccine get bells palsy
Vaccine seems to do a fantastic job of preventing bells palsy
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:14 pm to lsupride87
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lsupride87
So you're stating that this vaccine is preventing Bells Palsy, just want to get that straight.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:15 pm to bad93ex
quote:I am saying that is what the numbers from the OP reflect
So you're stating that this vaccine is preventing Bells Palsy, just want to get that straight.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:16 pm to lsupride87
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I am saying that is what the numbers from the OP reflect
Tell me, do you believe that the vaccine is a good preventative measure against Bells Palsy?
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:17 pm to The Pirate King
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So why again should I take a vaccine for a disease that wouldn’t likely affect me and risk getting Bell’s palsy at all?
It’s seems hypocritical that you are concerned about the extremely small chance of a non-deadly reaction to the vaccine, but you scoff at the small, but much greater, chances of dying of the Rona. I sense politics defining your opinions.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:17 pm to bad93ex
quote:The clinical trial shows the vaccine produced a lower incident rate of Bells Palsy than that of the general population. Thats just a fact, not an opinion
Tell me, do you believe that the vaccine is a good preventative measure against Bells Palsy?
If forced to make a conclusive theory, I would say yes, it helped to reduce the rate of bells palsy
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:19 pm to sgallo3
Lol. Yeah 3 out of 50k.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:21 pm to Salmon
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"The normal incidence of Bell's palsy is roughly 20 people out of 100,000. The Pfizer study examined 38,000 patients, so four cases would be within the normal observed incidence of Bell's palsy."
That's the normal distribution of that disorder over a lifetime? How do you factor in those four cases occured after taking the vaccine?
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:21 pm to lsupride87
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If forced to make a conclusive theory, I would say yes, it helped to reduce the rate of bells palsy
I hope you're correct:
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Bell’s palsy was reported by four vaccine participants and none in the placebo group. These cases occurred at 3, 9, 37, and 48 days after vaccination. One case (onset at 3 days postvaccination) was reported as resolved with sequelae within three days after onset, and the other three were reported as continuing or resolving as of the November 14, 2020 data cut-off with ongoing durations of 10, 15, and 21 days, respectively. The observed frequency of reported Bell’s palsy in the vaccine group is consistent with the expected background rate in the general population, and there is no clear basis upon which to conclude a causal relationship at this time, but FDA will recommend surveillance for cases of Bell’s palsy with deployment of the vaccine into larger populations.
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:22 pm to sneakytiger
quote:No
That's the normal distribution of that disorder over a lifetime?
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:23 pm to sgallo3
Posted on 12/11/20 at 12:24 pm to sneakytiger
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That's the normal distribution of that disorder over a lifetime? How do you factor in those four cases occured after taking the vaccine?
lsupride87 is saying that the vaccine is preventing Bells Palsy.
The FDA is saying that the number of incidences is consistent with the general population.
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