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re: Pentagon spending - on crabs, salmon and 1,800 dollar chairs

Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:12 pm to
Posted by hillcountrytigah
Member since Nov 2025
59 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:12 pm to
i miss steak and shrimp night in iraq

Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2503 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:15 pm to
Seems like that is standard practice if your wives find out that there is a bit of temporary surplus in the family budget.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:29 pm to
The fact that we have the data, means we have the way to solve this, but it's not worth it.

Maybe they shouldn't lose the budget, but if they end up spending frivolously, then those dollars are placed in some form of grant the following years and they have to be applied for more distinctly, rather than on frivolity.

It's an easy fix, but our government is not really concerned with easy fixes.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38329 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:30 pm to
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whopping $15.1 million on ribeye steak.
As a former soldier and a current chef, this brings to mind the scene from Apocalypse Now:
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They lined us up in front of a hundred yards of prime rib. All of us, you know, lined up and looking at it. Magnificent meat! Really! Beautifully marbled... magnifique! Next thing, they're throwing the meat into these big cauldrons. All of it, boiling it. I looked inside, man, and it was turning gray. I couldn't frickin' believe that one!


It’s a damn shame what’s about to happen to that ribeye. Anyone who’s ever been handed a charred lump of gristle off an MKT on “steak night” already knows how that story ends.




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This is not new or their fault, yet the author of this article is trying to paint this administration and specifically Hegseth in a bad light.

It's poor budget rules. Blame the people who made them years ago.


The rules themselves aren’t their fault. Pretending the SecDef has no mechanisms to change or work around those rules is a little disingenuous, but fine, set that aside. The real question is what the money was spent on.

You can go right now and read years of posts in the Ukraine thread from the same crowd now fluffing Hegseth, complaining nonstop about our shortage of artillery shells. Funny how that urgency disappears when the spending is lobster tails and baby grand pianos. Maybe some of that money could’ve gone to artillery shells instead, just as one example.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38329 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:39 pm to
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I'd hazard a guess the author of this article at MSN or wherever they source articles wasn't posting the same drivel during 2009-2017 or 2021-2025.



You seem more interested in balancing a scorecard than the budget.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
13199 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:51 pm to
He’ll go look up Iraqi freedom spending. If it was under 2500 and you could semi articulate a reason, it was rubber stamped. I had several pairs of sunglasses, different knives and other BS with no accountability. I wore glasses and couldn’t even wear the sunglasses.
Posted by 844_Tiger
Down_Under
Member since Jul 2021
606 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:53 pm to
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Once again. Our economy is so fake. Half of our private companies wouldn't exist without government spending or indirect funding.

Half by numerical count. I'd say 3/4 by market cap.
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
2280 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:55 pm to
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They couldn't spend it on much needed ammo and munitions?

Or improvements in housing or the VA?


Color of money rules.

Combined with the aforementioned "use it or lose it" mentality probably accounts for half of all government waste.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17234 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 6:56 pm to
Thats an interesting idea.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:12 pm to
Drop in the bucket, amirite?
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8841 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:16 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 9:09 am
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
24445 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:25 pm to
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quote: luxury crabs


WTF is this and do you have any?



Translation: Really high-end prostitutes
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10592 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:29 pm to
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The data showed that the Defense Department spent more than $225 million on furniture, the highest level since 2014, including one chair that cost $1,844. Since 2008, the DOD has spent an average of $257.6 million on furniture every September.

Looking at the average for furniture it’s obvious this happens every September with this being higher than past 11 years. This spending amount for furniture was below the average since 2008. We had multiple deployments and spending on furniture must have been huge for 2008 thru 2013 for this past September to still be below the average since 2008.

This is from the main article avoiding the daily beast’s take in OP link.
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Furniture spending today is far lower than in President Obama’s administration, when the military routinely spent $300 to $400 million every September. However, it has increased compared to Joe Biden’s administration. Since 2008, there have only been four Septembers when the DoD spent less than $178 million on furniture: the four Septembers that Biden was president.

To be fair, federal office buildings were closed during part of Biden’s administration due to the Covid-19 pandemic. The whole federal government still somehow managed to drop $3.3 billion on furniture from 2020 to 2022, including solar-powered picnic tables and Ethan Allen leather recliners.



Below is the contract and grant spending since 2008 with the September spikes. Biden’s Autopen had large increases in September 2023 and 2024 spending.

https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/pentagon-should-focus-on-defense


The problem is the use it or lose it policy and the budget process for the big Septembers.

Reward saving while being realistic about the decrease possibly being just a one year decrease and go back to normal the next year. With a grant or contract you might find it would just double the next year due to timing issues, but the policy forces people to process all at end of the year or you won’t get both years.

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Use-it-or-lose-it spending on IT has been studied for years. Research in the American Economic Review found that from 2004 to 2009, the federal government spent 23% of its IT budget just in the last week of September.

The frenzy of spending had drastic consequences. Those same IT purchases were 5.7 times more likely to receive a “low quality” score from government chief information officers, based on their cost and usefulness to the government.


The king crab is the one that seems most likely to be a Trump defense issue. Dems kept it up for a little while before reducing some, and then it jumped back up in 2025.

This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 7:46 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122111 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:40 pm to
$2 million worth of Alaskan King Crabs is criminal. 15.1 million on ribeye steak is criminal. Seriously frick them. These people are entitled fricks. They work for the people... But then... it is "the people".. Can't expect the general public to do anything smart.
Posted by Defenseiskey
Houston, TX
Member since Nov 2010
2143 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 7:46 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 7:47 pm
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10592 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:01 pm to
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Its what you voted for


It’s what you voted for as well. September spikes aren’t new. Obama was much higher for furniture. Biden’s Autopen was higher for grants and contracts over Trump’s 1st term and trending up closer to this past September, and Biden’s Autopen spent billions on furniture when many offices were closed for covid.

From the actual article and not a daily beast or euro take on it
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Furniture is near the top of the military’s wish list at the end of every fiscal year. Since 2008, the DoD has spent an average of $257.6 million on furniture every September — a 564% increase above the norm. In months besides September, furniture costs the military only $38.8 million on average.

This year was no different. The DoD spent $225.6 million on furniture, the most since 2014. Nearly half was labeled as “office furniture.”

The purchases included $60,719 worth of chairs from the premium furniture manufacturer Herman Miller, including at least one order of their luxurious Aeron Chair for $1,844. Another $12,540 paid for three-tiered fruit basket stands.

Furniture spending today is far lower than in President Obama’s administration, when the military routinely spent $300 to $400 million every September. However, it has increased compared to Joe Biden’s administration. Since 2008, there have only been four Septembers when the DoD spent less than $178 million on furniture: the four Septembers that Biden was president.

To be fair, federal office buildings were closed during part of Biden’s administration due to the Covid-19 pandemic. The whole federal government still somehow managed to drop $3.3 billion on furniture from 2020 to 2022, including solar-powered picnic tables and Ethan Allen leather recliners.


https://openthebooks.substack.com/p/pentagon-should-focus-on-defense
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17659 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:10 pm to
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The problem is the use it or lose it policy and the budget process for the big Septembers.

Honest question.

Who makes the policy?
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6373 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:21 pm to
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This is not new or their fault, yet the author of this article is trying to paint this administration and specifically Hegseth in a bad light.



You're doing a great job of defending waste, fraud, and abuse. Keep it up!
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38329 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:27 pm to
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Honest question.

Who makes the policy?
Congress sets time-limited appropriations> DoD distributes that money> internal incentives push units to spend what they were given before the clock runs out.

But the Secretary of Defense still has broad discretion over how that money is actually used. The deadlines exist because Congress wrote the appropriations law, but the SecDef ultimately decides whether funds get used for a particular purchase or program. If leadership doesn’t want to spend money on something, nothing in the “use it or lose it” structure forces them to buy lobster tails and baby grand pianos. They can choose not to obligate the funds.

You'd think the doge administration would choose not to spend it. They don't have to.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68364 posts
Posted on 3/10/26 at 8:28 pm to
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waste


Feeding our troops good food is waste to you? Makes sense given what I know about your political leanings.
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