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re: Patricia One of Strongest Hurricanes Ever! Peaked at 200 mph, 879 mb!!!

Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:09 am to
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21544 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:09 am to


000
WTPZ45 KNHC 230834
TCDEP5

HURRICANE PATRICIA DISCUSSION NUMBER 14
NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL EP202015
400 AM CDT FRI OCT 23 2015

Data from three center fixes by the Hurricane Hunters indicate
that the intensity, based on a blend of 700 mb-flight level and
SFMR-observed surface winds, is near 175 kt. This makes Patricia
the strongest hurricane on record in the National Hurricane Center's
area of responsibility (AOR) which includes the Atlantic and the
eastern North Pacific basins. The minimum central pressure
estimated from the aircraft data, 880 mb, is the lowest ever for
our AOR. It seems incredible that even more strengthening could
occur before landfall later today,
but recent microwave imagery
shows hints of a concentric eyewall developing. If the trend
toward an eyewall replacement continues, it would cause the
intensity to at least level off later today. The official forecast
shows only a little more strengthening before landfall. Given the
very mountainous terrain that Patricia should encounter after
landfall, the cyclone should weaken even faster over land than
predicted by the normal inland decay rate.

Recent center fixes show that the hurricane is gradually turning
toward the right, and the initial motion estimate is 340/10 kt. The
track forecast scenario remains about the same. Patricia should
continue to move around the western periphery of a mid-level
anticyclone today and turn north-northeastward ahead of a trough to
the northwest tonight and Saturday. The official track forecast is
somewhat slower than the latest model consensus and lies between
the GFS and ECMWF solutions.

The global models continue to depict the development of a cyclone
near the Texas coast over the weekend. Based on the predicted
upper-level winds, this system should be non-tropical in nature.
However this cyclone is expected to draw significant amounts of
moisture from Patricia's remnants, and could result in locally
heavy rainfall over portions of the northwestern Gulf of Mexico
coastal area within the next few days. Refer to statements from
local National Weather Service forecast offices for details.

We would like to acknowledge deeply the Air Force Hurricane Hunters
for their observations establishing Patricia as a record-breaking
hurricane. Clearly, without their data, we would never have known
just how strong a tropical cyclone it was.

KEY MESSAGES:

1. Confidence is high that Patricia will make landfall in the
hurricane warning area along the coast of Mexico as an extremely
dangerous category 5 hurricane this afternoon or evening.
Preparations to protect life and property in the hurricane warning
area should have been completed, or rushed to completion, as
tropical storm conditions are beginning to affect the area.
Residents in low-lying areas near the coast in the hurricane warning
area should evacuate immediately, since the storm surge could be
catastrophic near and to the east of where the center makes
landfall.

2. In addition to the coastal impacts, very heavy rainfall is
likely to cause life-threatening flash floods and mud slides in the
Mexican states of Jalisco, Colima, Michoacan and Guerrero continuing
into Saturday.

FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 23/0900Z 17.0N 105.5W 175 KT 200 MPH
12H 23/1800Z 18.8N 105.4W 180 KT 205 MPH
24H 24/0600Z 21.7N 104.2W 60 KT 70 MPH...INLAND
36H 24/1800Z 24.5N 102.5W 20 KT 25 MPH...POST-TROP/REMNT LOW
48H 25/0600Z...DISSIPATED
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:10 am to
it's sure trying to be as large as Tip though. The associated thunderstorms were huge last night anyway
Posted by Mac
Member since Nov 2007
14803 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:12 am to
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82745 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:13 am to
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
62018 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:14 am to
quote:

and I don't even believe in God.

It's ok Duke, he believes in you.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23793 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:14 am to
Puerto Vallarta may be literally wiped off the map if strengthening continues.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51891 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:15 am to
In layman's terms, the lower the pressure, the more the higher pressure atmosphere rushes in unimpeded. As this crush of air circulates in it pulls more and more atmosphereric air in, creating the vortex as it seeks a way out. The lower the pressure, the higher the intensity as resistance to the inflow decreases.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:16 am to
tornadocane
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:19 am to

Puerto Byellarta
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35950 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:21 am to
I wonder how long that webcam stays up. Will be interesting to watch. It's starting to look breezy there.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Can someone please explain to me like I'm five years old how old the barometric pressure characterizes the strength of a hurricane


It does so in two ways.

The first is the wind. Air moves from high pressure to low pressure. So the bigger pressure difference over a similar distance produces stronger winds.

Also, the lower the pressure on the surface of the water at the same water temp means more water is in the vapor phase and available to be picked up and fuel the storm.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41908 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:22 am to
Wife is freaking out because we are going to Houston this weekend and need to drive back Sunday. What kind of effects from this thing will impact a drive home all seeing is rain and like 20mph gusts
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46517 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:24 am to
Where is this thing at/headed?
Posted by Tiger55
Gretna, LA
Member since Aug 2004
1473 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:25 am to
Just looked on that live link. Woman standing and filming in all directions, especially towards the building. Like she knows it will all be gone shortly. Feel bad for them.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31554 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:27 am to
quote:

We would like to acknowledge deeply the Air Force Hurricane Hunters
for their observations establishing Patricia as a record-breaking
hurricane. Clearly, without their data, we would never have known
just how strong a tropical cyclone it was

I'd love to see the video from that flight. Wow.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
5520 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:27 am to
quote:

Jim Cantore needs to leave there


fify
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
23793 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Just looked on that live link. Woman standing and filming in all directions, especially towards the building. Like she knows it will all be gone shortly. Feel bad for them


I'd grab what I could and get the hell inland. I'm all for riding out hurricanes, but this one is on a whole different level.
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:31 am to
dude grabbed a few cases of beer and coming back for the sombreros
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
69546 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:31 am to
quote:

I'd love to see the video from that flight. Wow.



I think they normally release it at some point, or have before at least.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
35950 posts
Posted on 10/23/15 at 8:32 am to
There's a couple of different people doing camera videos now. Likely preparing for the impending insurance claims.
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