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re: Pastor Spell just got cuffed. Video in link. Need lawyer opinions as well
Posted on 4/21/20 at 12:47 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 4/21/20 at 12:47 pm to LSUFanHouston
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This is good for his business.
But...churches aren't businesses.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:07 pm to tigerskin
just watched the video of the "assault" with the bus
Have any of you ACTUALLY watched it?
No way that's assault - the police were just looking for someway to detain this guy.
Have any of you ACTUALLY watched it?
No way that's assault - the police were just looking for someway to detain this guy.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:09 pm to theunknownknight
Assault is putting someone in fear of being struck.
Battery is the physical act of striking.
Arguably an assault.
Battery is the physical act of striking.
Arguably an assault.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:15 pm to Demshoes
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Arguably an assault.
It's assault.
It was intentional intimidation of a lawful protestor too.
I particularly liked the race card he's attempting to use. Tony Spell give us some good laughs!
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:16 pm to tigerskin
These are some bullshite charges.
I’m not a fan of the guy but he has a right to assemble if he wants to.
The words that flow out of JBE’s mouth are not laws and don’t suspend the constitution or the bill of rights.
People that applaud this should take a one way ticket to a communist country.
I’m not a fan of the guy but he has a right to assemble if he wants to.
The words that flow out of JBE’s mouth are not laws and don’t suspend the constitution or the bill of rights.
People that applaud this should take a one way ticket to a communist country.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:16 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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I saw the video. That isn't what he was trying to do at all.
He was trying to intimidate him, but you don't slam on your brakes if you're actually trying to run somebody over.
The protestor didn't move at all, the pastor didn't try to run him over.
That being said, I think this pastor is a POS but the charges won't stick.
1) Simple Assault occurs when an individual
Applies intentional force to another person without the other person’s consent
Attempting or threatening, by an act or gesture to apply force
Approaching or blocking the way of another person while openly wearing or carrying a weapon or an imitation of a weapon.
2) When committing an assault, if the individual
carries, uses, or threatens to use a weapon, or causes bodily harm the individual is guilty of assault causing bodily harm.
3) Aggravated assault is committed when a person
wounds, maims, disfigures, or endangers the life of the victim. Here there is intent to commit bodily harm.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:38 pm to Tiger Vision
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you can't "assault" someone without having physically touched them.
sure you can.
battery is physical.
assault
quote:
uses, or threatens to use a weapon,
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:39 pm to AndyCBR
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I’m not a fan of the guy but he has a right to assemble if he wants to.
So does the protester without the fear of being assaulted by a bus.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:40 pm to dagrippa
Does it fit the definition....if you stretch it and turn it on its head. In any other time, the police would not bother and a serious judge would tell the DA to hurry up and get the frick out of his court room and press charges against criminals engaging in criminal acts or he will call the bar association himself.
Spell is a clown, but he is not doing anything close to criminal.
Spell is a clown, but he is not doing anything close to criminal.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:40 pm to AndyCBR
quote:what does that have to do with anything?
I’m not a fan of the guy but he has a right to assemble if he wants to.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:43 pm to MrLSU
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About time we brought back the firing squad in the country and I see that I have many supporters on this thread. However, I'm nicer than those supporters in that I would give him a last cigarette and a blind fold before the hot lead from an armada of AK-47s hit his body.
This is AMERICA.
We use BARs.
None of that commie metric system caliber shooting shite.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:45 pm to AndyCBR
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These are some bullshite charges.
I’m not a fan of the guy but he has a right to assemble if he wants to.
The words that flow out of JBE’s mouth are not laws and don’t suspend the constitution or the bill of rights.
People that applaud this should take a one way ticket to a communist country.
What do you think he was arrested for?
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:48 pm to LNCHBOX
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What do you think he was arrested for?
Making up a dubious assault charge, and yes, it’s my opinion it’s a trumped up charge, is just a feeble attempt to stop the actions the authorities don’t like. Namely, having church in spite of the orders from our government overlords.
This is government overreach no matter what terms one uses to justify it.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:58 pm to AndyCBR
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Making up a dubious assault charge, and yes, it’s my opinion it’s a trumped up charge, is just a feeble attempt to stop the actions the authorities don’t like. Namely, having church in spite of the orders from our government overlords
He got exactly what he wanted - he got people riled up to come to his aid and support his cause. He’s probably sitting at home jerking off to your post as we speak.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 2:04 pm to AndyCBR
quote:Explain how the below, does not apply here. Make a case based on logic, not emotion. Let's hear it.
Making up a dubious assault charge
quote:
"Assault in Louisiana is an attempt to cause physical injury to another person – for instance, attempting to strike someone with a hand or object, and missing. Assault also is any intentional act or threat of action that reasonably causes a person to feel afraid of impending violence. Words alone do not constitute an assault, but if an offender threatens to attack or injure another, appears to have the ability to carry out the threat, and causes the victim to reasonably believe that he is about to be struck or injured, the offender has committed an assault."
Posted on 4/21/20 at 2:09 pm to tigerskin
Congrats Central Karens and OT Karens : you’ve now supplied Pastor Spell with unlimited publicity!
And y’all are celebrating this bogus arrest, pathetic
And y’all are celebrating this bogus arrest, pathetic
Posted on 4/21/20 at 2:11 pm to castorinho
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Explain how the below, does not apply here. Make a case based on logic, not emotion. Let's hear it.
I’ll take it a step further. If you don’t believe he was trying to intimidate that protester, what exactly do you think he was trying to accomplish?
Posted on 4/21/20 at 2:14 pm to southdowns84
UPDATE: He was released from jail shortly after being booked to a group of people applauding waiting outside.
Don't worry, the news was there to capture the moment and he took the opportunity to preach his word before heading off.
Sorry for the Facebook Link (WAFB)
Don't worry, the news was there to capture the moment and he took the opportunity to preach his word before heading off.
Sorry for the Facebook Link (WAFB)
Posted on 4/21/20 at 2:16 pm to Klark Kent
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Congrats Central Karens and OT Karens : you’ve now supplied Pastor Spell with unlimited publicity!
This was a master stroke by Spell, no doubt about it.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 2:20 pm to southdowns84
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He got exactly what he wanted - he got people riled up to come to his aid and support his cause. He’s probably sitting at home jerking off to your post as we speak.
I don’t know what the guy wanted and I don’t really care.
I believe the actions by the authorities are unjustified.
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