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re: Part of the new Hard Rock Hotel collapses (NOLA) 3 dead, Cranes Down-ish

Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by doublecutter
Member since Oct 2003
7154 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:34 pm to
Every firm that did any work on that building will be named 3rd party defendants by the GC. And yeah, Citadel will be sued by the ownership company. They are 2 separate legal entities now on opposing sides of liability issues.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31555 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:39 pm to
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Don't you think they will eventually tear down somehow what is still standing and start over??

#1: you won’t find an engineer that will sign off on the structural integrity of the structure in its current state.
#2: you won’t find a tenet that wants their name associated with the building “the collapsed and killed multiple people.”
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19263 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:41 pm to
Looks like Friday they implode it all.
Should be a good site to see.

Two bodies buried had dna samples taken for identification. Remove some flammable hazards and Friday boom


Sweep up and build the next building.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:43 pm to
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It’s not true


If it’s not true than he will just wait on his money. I just commented on the post speculating that they might be trying some novel design.

The drywall contractor installs the metal studs both load bearing and non load bearing. Has nothing to do with the actual Sheetrock.

And the painter tapes and floats. He’s in good shape because he hasn’t even walked on the job.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
38089 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:47 pm to
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The drywall contractor


King Company.

I hope like hell they didn’t use a load bearing stud system designed by the Pace Group.
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1562 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:50 pm to
My husband is in the Orchestra on the show. His instruments are still in the pit. He was told they would be able to get them Sunday. I told him not to count on it from what I’m reading.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35426 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:54 pm to
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told him not to count on it from what I’m reading.


You cited the ot?

Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15752 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:55 pm to
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And the painter tapes and floats


Drywall guys tape and float. Painter's paint
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:57 pm to
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Looks like Friday they implode it all.
Should be a good site to see.



this true dude?
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31555 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:57 pm to
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The drywall contractor installs the metal studs both load bearing and non load bearing. Has nothing to do with the actual Sheetrock.

Well, drywall = Sheetrock. Just like Skil saw = Circular saw. Sheetrock is a brand name of gypsum board.

In most cases, your metal stud contractor will also hang the drywall. It’s not uncommon to have a drywall contractor certified to do structural metal studs. Now I’ve seen (and personally done) composite structural metal stud/ structural steel jobs. But if true, I’ve never seen a structural steel on deck with composite interior load bearing walls. With multistory elevated construction like this, you want welded robust connections to resist seismic or wind loading. I don’t even know how or why you’d consider that design, especially with them already having placed the concrete on the decks.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19263 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:58 pm to
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this true dude?


From my sauce, this is the plan
Posted by LSUisBetterthanU
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
780 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 7:58 pm to
In any load bearing metal stud job, the stud are installed first. The deck sits on the studs, then the deck is poured. You shore the deck as required by the engineer. You don’t pour the deck then install studs. Drywall guy in my opinion is not responsible at all, unless someone really stupid put the schedule together. .
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:00 pm to
dang dude. thx for info.

glad to see they're making moves on this asap.

but surprised to know that the investigation will be completely wrapped up by Friday for the go ahead demolition
Posted by Fat Harry
70115
Member since Mar 2005
2392 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:01 pm to
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Also, as it wasn’t a public job there would be no performance bond required by any municipality.


Lender would require it.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:02 pm to
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King Company.

I hope like hell they didn’t use a load bearing stud system designed by the Pace Group.




Cy Geary. They’ve been around a long time.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12695 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:03 pm to
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From my sauce, this is the plan


Seems surprising they’d be able to plan and execute this that quickly, no?
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
6010 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:04 pm to
They should send in lots of laser scanning drones to capture all the info they need before they implode
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:05 pm to
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Well, drywall = Sheetrock. Just like Skil saw = Circular saw. Sheetrock is a brand name of gypsum board.

In most cases, your metal stud contractor will also hang the drywall. It’s not uncommon to have a drywall contractor certified to do structural metal studs. Now I’ve seen (and personally done) composite structural metal stud/ structural steel jobs. But if true, I’ve never seen a structural steel on deck with composite interior load bearing walls. With multistory elevated construction like this, you want welded robust connections to resist seismic or wind loading. I don’t even know how or why you’d consider that design, especially with them already having placed the concrete on the decks.




I know chief. I was pointing out the discussion was about the liability of the metal studs. Not the actual hanging of the Sheetrock.

And I’ve done it for 50 years and never once picked up taping and floating. Painters always pick that up in their scope.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42654 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:07 pm to
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Lender would require it.



Good point. You would think they would.
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1562 posts
Posted on 10/16/19 at 8:11 pm to
Yep! Most reliable news source ever
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 8:50 pm
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