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re: Paging the horse paste deniers - FDA loses it's war on Ivermectin

Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:18 am to
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
25737 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:18 am to
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You still don't get it, do you
Show evidence it works in a well constructed study…. (I’m not saying it’s dangerous because it’s not but it’s also not effective)
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8259 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:18 am to
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The leftist war on ivermectin was insane like most of their covid policy was.


It wasn’t insane it was intentional.

Chyna bought off Biden. Biden needed a pandemic to keep him sidelined for election run up. Can’t have a cure get traction.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7324 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:19 am to
I fear that one of the consequences of the dishonesty and mix messaging the public received during covid will be if there ever is another outbreak. one that say kills 5-10% (or worse) of those infected and the public really does need to listen to officials and act fast to contain it....we wont believe them.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56355 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:19 am to
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a letter has been issued to retract it
this one?
quote:

This Expression of Concern does not imply that the methodology used by Mr. Andrew Bryant and his collaborators was incorrect. The use of summary data published by others is a generally accepted approach in biomedical metanalytic research.1
yeah, damning
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18286 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:19 am to
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is this a serious statement. I cant tell

If so....yikes


Like I told Tomato, I specifically quoted the NIH because the guy I was responding to posted a link from the NIH.

If we're just going to play the "only the things I like to hear are true" game, then by all means cite a Facebook post or a 4chan meme or something
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13578 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:21 am to
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Literally every single thing they made SOME of us do was wrong
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:23 am to
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Chyna bought off Biden. Biden needed a pandemic to keep him sidelined for election run up. Can’t have a cure get traction.

No it’s because it’s available as a generic. Making money is more important than your health.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13578 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:23 am to
Every person should listen to the Dr. Pierre Kory interview with Tucker Carlson.

It is sickening how infiltrated our government has it’s slimy tentacles into everything. frick those motherfrickers, and frick anyone that went along with any of this and didnt sniff it out from the 2nd week of March 2020.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
3922 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:25 am to
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Random Twitter source... Seems legit



Found the 52x vaccinated mudblood
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57331 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:25 am to
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I think my HVAC guy could probably go toe to tow with them in the IQ department frankly.


The more IQ tests are taking across classes when comparing those of the same work ethic, the more your theory is confirmed.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18286 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:25 am to
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this one?


Yes, because after that there was a review of their study and this was the result:

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In their original meta-analysis, Bryant et al3 performed sensitivity analyses to assess robustness of their results by performing trial sequential analysis to confirm that ivermectin reduced mortality. Reanalysis of the study by Niaee et al showed that it should have been recategorized as having a high risk of bias and excluded during sensitivity analysis.24 This study had data and statistical errors previously described and included PCR-negative patients with different between-group PCR positivity, BMI, oxygen saturation, and initial CT performance, indicating randomization failure. In our opinion, these issues require removal of this article from any meta-analysis. Importantly, this was the only article within the Bryant meta-analysis showing that ivermectin reduced mortality.4 Removal of this single article alters their results so that no significant difference now exists between ivermectin and control mortality (risk ratio, 0.73; 95% CI, 0.45–1.18).
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
18286 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:26 am to
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Show evidence it works in a well constructed study


All well constructed studies are funded by big pharma (and therefore lies). I'll stick with what I heard my AC guy talking about at Chili's
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71815 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:26 am to
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It was silly to ever paint it as "horse medicine," yes.


Meh.

Anyone who contributed to the shortage at places like TSC because they were following advise and dosing recommendations from fake podcast doctors deserves to be ridiculed.

It's impossible for anything to come out to change that.
Posted by auzach91
Marietta, GA
Member since Jan 2009
40255 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:26 am to
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they made us do


didn’t do anything they tried to make me do
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
10708 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:28 am to
My beagles, goats, and horses all get a dose once a month, and I knock down a shot myself afterwards each time. Use the liquid injectable orally and chase it with coke to wash down the taste.

Good for cancer prevention as well:

Epoch Times (paywall) Ivermectin Could Be a ‘Powerful Drug’ for Fighting Cancer, Here’s Why


quote:



Mr. Alderson got started with 10 rounds of radiation therapy. Initially, his carcinoembryonic antigen (CEA), a marker for tumor activity, was significantly elevated at 480 nanograms per milliliter (ng/mL). A month later, he started chemotherapy. By then, his CEA levels had risen to 1,498 ng/mL.

By the time Mr. Alderson started treatment, his colon cancer had metastasized and spread to his liver, where he had 25 tumors. “I was off their charts,” Mr. Alderson said in an interview with The Cancer Box, a cancer diagnosis blog. Due to concerns about COVID-19 and the ongoing pandemic, Mr. Alderson started looking into preventative medication and found ivermectin. Further research showed that the drug could likely enhance the effectiveness of his chemotherapy and radiation therapy and was relatively safe. In February 2021, he began taking ivermectin. Ten days later, his CEA levels had dropped to 184 ng/mL.

. . .

Mr. Alderson went on to live another two years before succumbing to liver failure due to the progression of his three remaining liver tumors.

“His life was definitely extended,” Mrs. Alderson said, reflecting on Mr. Alderson’s cancer journey.

She attributes Mr. Alderson’s survival beyond his prognosis to his success with ivermectin and the chemotherapy drug fluorouracil. “Ivermectin was instrumental,” she said.


This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 8:32 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56355 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:30 am to
That doesn't invalidate anything.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5416 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:30 am to
Hate to be the voice of reason here, but this ruling has nothing to do with ivermectin and its effectiveness against Covid. It merely states the FDA stepped out of bounds by recommending or discouraging certain medications.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119187 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:31 am to
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horse paste deniers


Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27070 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:31 am to
This thread is going to be nothing but confirmation bias warriors on both sides, so I'll just drop that this was the actual holding and then move on:

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“FDA can inform, but it has identified no authority allowing it to recommend consumers ‘stop’ taking medicine,” U.S. Circuit Judge Don Willett, appointed under President Trump, wrote for the court. The appeals court remanded the case back to the district court.


In short, the ruling is a general one and has nothing to do with the efficacy, or non efficacy, of a single drug.

Carry on.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
4893 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:33 am to
These threads are fascinating to watch the conspiracies people choose to die on a hill for, yet call people sheep for the conspiracies others believe in.
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