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Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
It can be reversed. End welfare and foreign aid.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Yep, and any politician trying to slow down social security would get voted out. That's the issue. No politician wants to touch it.
Noone wants to pay more taxes. The slashing one would have to do to spending has no support either. You may think you want that slashing until the options are on the table. Anyone proposing same would be voted out.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:59 pm to beerJeep
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Where are your farm subsidies and corporate welfare and the rest of the programs classified as income security?
Your chart includes "social security," and 80 percent of social security is retirement payments, and calling that welfare is a little flimsy.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 4:59 pm to beerJeep
Hey Grok, what is the revenue from federal payroll taxes?
What were the federal government 2024 social security expenses?
Apparently Social Security still pays for itself. It's other areas where there is overspending.
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For 2024 (calendar year or similar), estimates were around $1.71 trillion.
What were the federal government 2024 social security expenses?
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The U.S. Treasury's Combined Statement and related reports show Social Security outlays at $1,460.9 billion (about $1.46 trillion) for FY 2024.
Apparently Social Security still pays for itself. It's other areas where there is overspending.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:01 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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Your chart includes "social security," and 80 percent of social security is retirement payments, and calling that welfare is a little flimsy.
Uhhhh what tf else would you call social security if not welfare payments from the young and healthy to the old and infirm?
It was also literally created to improve the WELFARE of the elderly via payments from the young and healthy via payroll taxes.
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Apparently Social Security still pays for itself. It's other areas where there is overspending.
It does not and has not for years and will only continue to get worse.
This post was edited on 2/16/26 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:08 pm to RLDSC FAN
Doesn't seem like leadership from either party is actually willing to do anything about it
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:13 pm to RLDSC FAN
Interest costs are expected to reach 3.2% of the total U.S. GDP in 2026.
Dave Ramsey would turn in his grave if he were dead.
Dave Ramsey would turn in his grave if he were dead.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:14 pm to RLDSC FAN
I did the math
If you covered the field in tiger stadium with $100 bills (including the endzones), you would need to stack it over 384 feet high to have $64 trillion dollars.
That's well over the height of the upper decks, and you would be short about 3 billion dollars. (No joke)
If you covered the field in tiger stadium with $100 bills (including the endzones), you would need to stack it over 384 feet high to have $64 trillion dollars.
That's well over the height of the upper decks, and you would be short about 3 billion dollars. (No joke)
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:29 pm to RLDSC FAN
Trump himself is likely to add between 16 and 18 Trillion in his two terms. Obama added 8 trillion in his two terms. Biden added 8 Trillion in his single term. That’s three men adding 32 plus TRILLION to the debt. That’s insane and not sustainable.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:34 pm to RLDSC FAN
Clown shite
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:36 pm to RLDSC FAN
The people in charge believe in MMT.
Modern monetary theory.
To believe in it, you have to be taking crazy pills.
Modern monetary theory.
To believe in it, you have to be taking crazy pills.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:39 pm to GumboPot
Love it. One day, government charts, numbers and graphs are completely fabricated. The next, a chart, graph or report is cited as 100% gospel.
Incredible
Incredible
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:40 pm to ronricks
Probably need to cut spending and raise taxes. But we still have a ways to go before it's forced
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:45 pm to beerJeep
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Uhhhh what tf else would you call social security if not welfare payments from the young and healthy to the old and infirm?
Old folks on social security never paid in to the system?
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:45 pm to RLDSC FAN
Conservative's don't exist anymore.
Always laughed at people like Hannity and Levin. "You'll never see me support a candidate that isn't fiscally conservative." Well that's absolute bullshite.
Always laughed at people like Hannity and Levin. "You'll never see me support a candidate that isn't fiscally conservative." Well that's absolute bullshite.
This post was edited on 2/16/26 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:46 pm to UltimaParadox
It's play money on paper now. In 10 years, the words National Debt won't exist. It will be wiped. UBI is on the horizon and if you're not in the ruling class, like me, you're fricked.
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:48 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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Old folks on social security never paid in to the system?
Ohhhh….. you don’t know how social security works.
There is no “paying into a system”. There are the current payers (the young and healthy via payroll taxes) that are CURRENTLY PAYING for the WELFARE of the elderly, disabled, and survivors. They do so with the hope and speculation that there will be enough young and healthy workers to pay for their social security once they reach retirement age.
Those that are currently receiving benefits (hyper majority) have paid some amount at some time for the care of the then elderly recipients.although the majority will end up taking out more than they put in. They never “paid into a system” for them to withdrawal from later.
Again. Social security is quite literally welfare. That is what they called it when they designed it. That’s what it is today.
The young and healthy paying for the WELFARE of he old, infirm, and survivors.
This post was edited on 2/16/26 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:48 pm to RLDSC FAN
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How did we end up here?
How did we end up with a Political post on the OT?
Posted on 2/16/26 at 5:53 pm to RLDSC FAN
It’s all make believe.
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