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Posted on 1/29/21 at 2:44 pm to MikeBRLA
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The guy that dropped it off and may have signed such a document didn’t legally own the bike. You cannot sign away ownership of something you don’t own
Doesn’t sound like this is the issue. I’d research the mechanic’s lien law in that state. I doubt this is the shop’s first rodeo. If they’re not working with him, they’re likely working an angle to clear the title, or they hope he doesn’t send a demand letter for the release, and hit him with a $xx/day storage fee starting the day he was notified.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 2:47 pm to The Mick
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Did the guy that dropped it off sign the contract/order sheet? If so, then he agreed the shop can keep the bike until payment is received and if it's not received by certain timeframe after completion of work, then the bike becomes the property of the shop. (Not positive, but if it's valued for more than the repair, they have to try to sell it and refund the overage to the owner).
There's a state law that protects the Shop, it's right there on the picture you posted.
That's only if it "Has been left by the owner or on the owner’s behalf". Clearly that isn't the case here.
I'm short on details now because:
1. We aren't the only ones with access to the internet and this board.
2. I don't want to mess this up by blathering on the internet.
Hopefully I'll have some more details to post on Monday or Tuesday. I still have faith that this will fully go my way at this point. It just has to unfold and it's not going to happen immediately.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 2:48 pm to lsuconnman
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Doesn’t sound like this is the issue. I’d research the mechanic’s lien law in that state. I doubt this is the shop’s first rodeo. If they’re not working with him, they’re likely working an angle to clear the title, or they hope he doesn’t send a demand letter for the release, and hit him with a $xx/day storage fee starting the day he was notified.
The shop doesn't have a leg to stand on... at all.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 3:24 pm to lsuconnman
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Doesn’t sound like this is the issue. I’d research the mechanic’s lien law in that state. I doubt this is the shop’s first rodeo. If they’re not working with him, they’re likely working an angle to clear the title, or they hope he doesn’t send a demand letter for the release, and hit him with a $xx/day storage fee starting the day he was notified.
That ship has sailed....
Posted on 1/29/21 at 3:47 pm to The Mick
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d the guy that dropped it off sign the contract/order sheet? If so, then he agreed the shop can keep the bike until payment is received and if it's not received by certain timeframe after completion of work, then the bike becomes the property of the shop. (Not positive, but if it's valued for more than the repair, they have to try to sell it and refund the overage to the owner).
There's a state law that protects the Shop, it's right there on the picture you posted
Man this is too easy. Nice job E.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 4:56 pm to MikeBRLA
Interesting situation for sure. BTW I’m not on the shop’s side I stand proud with the OP.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 5:36 pm to The Mick
Is there a local TV station that does investigative reporting. I think this might be something they would be interested in.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 6:32 pm to BIGJLAW
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the guy that dropped it off sign the contract/order sheet? If so, then he agreed the shop can keep the bike until payment is received and if it's not received by certain timeframe after completion of work, then the bike becomes the property of the shop.
Even if they wanted to file a mechanics lien, they couldn’t. Per MS. Law, the statute of limitations has run out on that. Their only recourse to take possession was to go through the abandonment process. That’s why they did that to the OP. That’s getting nipped in the bud.
Actually, there was another path. It may not have been legal, they tried that too. That might be the undoing.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:12 pm to TimeOutdoors
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Is there a local TV station that does investigative reporting. I think this might be something they would be interested in.
Holy shite you're right! This is a job for Nakamoto or whatever his name is.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 9:30 pm to The Mick
Think about it like a pawnshop and stolen goods. All the rights to the property go out the window the second police show up and point out the what they have is stolen. It goes back to the owner or as evidence. Pawn shop is out their money and the goods.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 11:36 pm to eitek1
I have dealt with the local authorities in Columbus before and some Attorneys. If I can remember any of them I will shoot them to you.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 12:39 am to BIGJLAW
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...local authorities...
Again. County Prosecutor. Steve Wallace.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 1:31 am to BruceJender
Unfortunately, the fact that they now know the bike was stolen, any and all parts of value will be stripped from the bike before you get there.
Expect to hear a lot of, “man, it was like that when the thief rolled it up in here”.
Expect to hear a lot of, “man, it was like that when the thief rolled it up in here”.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 5:39 am to Old Sarge
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OT Lawyer advice needed—Stolen motorcycle recovery UPDATE page 5
Think about it like a pawnshop and stolen goods. All the rights to the property go out the window the second police show up and point out the what they have is stolen. It goes back to the owner or as evidence. Pawn shop is out their money and the goods.
One of the garage shows, not gas monkey but some other had a car that was "left" at a garage and and the shop filed a lien and got a title. They later sold it to another shop. However it was learn to be stolen when they tried to register the car in another state. The police seized the car and after certifying the vin and police report the police return what was left of the car to the owners. Shop was out of its purchase price and work they had done on the car.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 7:34 am to BIGJLAW
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I have dealt with the local authorities in Columbus before and some Attorneys. If I can remember any of them I will shoot them to you.
The folks I’ve dealt with have been shockingly responsive. It’s pretty amazing. The detective handling case was out of town this week on training so it was hard to get a lot done. That said we did communicate often.
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Unfortunately, the fact that they now know the bike was stolen, any and all parts of value will be stripped from the bike before you get there.
If they try to do this, they become a “chop shop” as mentioned by a previous poster.
I’ve got pics of the bike just prior to all of this. The LE folks I’ve spoken to mentioned arrest if the bike is messed with.
I’d like to think I’ve got my ducks in a row.
This post was edited on 1/30/21 at 7:35 am
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:48 am to eitek1
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If they try to do this, they become a “chop shop” as mentioned by a previous poster.
I’ve got pics of the bike just prior to all of this. The LE folks I’ve spoken to mentioned arrest if the bike is messed with.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:30 pm to eitek1
Doing work, Baw. 
Posted on 1/30/21 at 9:17 pm to Floating Change Up
Yep, thankfully asking for pictures was one of the first things I did.
Posted on 1/31/21 at 12:11 am to BruceJender
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Yep, thankfully asking for pictures was one of the first things I did
Thank goodness you did. Those pics just keep getting more and more interesting.
This is turning into some next level mystery. LOL
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