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re: Number of unmarried young men is surging
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:12 am to UltimaParadox
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:12 am to UltimaParadox
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Number of men going to college is also shrinking dramatically.
This, IMO, is one of the most obvious driving factors
A college educated male is more likely to date/marry a non college educated female
While a college educated female is less likely to date/marry a non college educated male
The college educated male can choose from both pools, but the college educated female is only choosing from 1 pool, and that pool is shrinking by the year
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:14 am to RLDSC FAN
A product of everything being so damn expensive. A couple who has a child out of wedlock remains unmarried otherwise the mother will not receive government handouts.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:14 am to Salmon
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Number of men going to college is also shrinking dramatically.
This, IMO, is one of the most obvious driving factors
Id buy that argument for a dollar.
Its a solid factor
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:20 am to RLDSC FAN
Most are now gay, or would rather spend their money on $8 lattes.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:20 am to RLDSC FAN
I didn't marry until 35 because I was financially unstable in my twenties and got laid off due to an oilfield crash and a recession. I wasn't too adamant about the types of women I met once I left college. Lots of fat chicks and single moms if you're not in a major city. My wife was the first woman I dated that didn't stress me out and actually made my life somewhat easier instead of a drag on it.
Im also not one of those guys who just does things because "everyone else did it." I won't intentionally stress myself out if I can and I think the majority of men are waking up to that fact even if they don't buy into redpill stuff. Men can stay bachelors and it's perfectly normal.
Im also not one of those guys who just does things because "everyone else did it." I won't intentionally stress myself out if I can and I think the majority of men are waking up to that fact even if they don't buy into redpill stuff. Men can stay bachelors and it's perfectly normal.
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:23 am to JasonDBlaha
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They’d rather stay inside their fake and plastic worlds of TikTok and Instagram than actually develop relationships that aren’t superficial.
I don't think this is limited to women. Many young people have little to no social skills at all due to a reliance on technology and a lack of personal interaction with others.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:44 am to RLDSC FAN
I think it’s a combo of things:
-Feminism demasculinating men
-Too high of standards from women
-many women give it away quickly with no commitment
-Divorce laws that favor women
-Husbands being an afterthought once kids come along
-easy access to porn
-Feminism demasculinating men
-Too high of standards from women
-many women give it away quickly with no commitment
-Divorce laws that favor women
-Husbands being an afterthought once kids come along
-easy access to porn
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:48 am to Sam Quint
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if my algorithm is anything close to correct men are being blamed for almost everything by their wives or girlfriends. If you've seen any videos on this mother that just murdered her 3 children you will understand what I'm talking about. She clearly admitted to killing the 3 children, the defense and prosecutors clearly showed she committed the murders but you have white women in all of the social media saying it was the husband/father. Young men see that and just throw up their hands and say "why would I want that?"
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it is pretty bonkers.
It is, and she's fully responsible, but I think some of the husband hate is coming from the precedent of the Andrea Yates case. The husband dropped the ball bad in that one.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:55 am to The Pirate King
quote:while the 1/2 failure rate is accurate, it includes things like shotgun weddings, teen pregnancy weddings , I met this girl for five minutes in Las Vegas weddings….
1/2 your net worth against a 50% or greater chance of failure is a bad bet.
When you correct for those horrible reasons to get married, the failure rate of marriage falls quite a bit, down to about 30%
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:13 pm to magicman534
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I think it’s a combo of things:
-Feminism demasculinating men
-Too high of standards from women
-many women give it away quickly with no commitment
-Divorce laws that favor women
-Husbands being an afterthought once kids come along
-easy access to porn
Pretty good list, really. Some additional thoughts -
-Women, and the culture they influenced, asked things of men that women don't actually want. They don't want emotionally available men, they want curated men who give them just enough to feel valued without actually taking on any of man's mental/emotional burden. They don't want soft men. The very same types who were screaming about toxic masculinity are now making reels about how they don't get catcalled anymore. It's just so stupid.
- Men more or less held up their end of that. Not only did we become soft on demand (some), we did all the other objectively good stuff too. As it comes to M-F dynamics, this is probably the most restrained, self-controlled, low-toxicity (whatever that means) group of men in WORLD HISTORY. And then all the other metrics go along with it - men do more with their kids, do more around the house, so forth. If there was a contract - then as to the stuff women put into the contract overtly - men fulfilled it. I will caveat this and say men aren't leading well independently of women in many cases, and that's a genuine fault.
- Women, however, are flagrantly breaching theirs. This group of women is probably the least restrained, self-controlled, low-toxicity in WORLD HISTORY. It's an incredibly stark mismatch.
- And the governance of each is wildly different. Even in the worst parts of the purported manosphere/redpill stuff, you'll see very commonly - work out, be better for yourself, if you have kids, be a great dad, care about your mind/your body/etc. And men are self-enforcing that, harshly at times. How many of you in professional life know a ton of guys who don't exercise at all? I don't know any. That wasn't the case 15 years ago.
- Meanwhile, women just will not self-police, like at all. There is genuinely no meaningful factor in female culture saying "hey don't do OF" or "don't abort" or "don't get engrossed in true crime world, or read slutty vampire novels" or "respect your husband." You're going to get genuinely booted off the island for that stuff. This is why even conservative leaning/Christian/etc. women online are hedging on the Clancy thing.
- I'm fine acknowledging men have roles in a lot of this stuff. Someone patronizes OF. Someone approved the Gillette ad. We built the apps. We built the companies that are now HR-ified and adult daycares. Our laziness opened the door for plenty of this. The difference, of course, is that there has never been a shortage of institutional forces willing to say any of that. We've all been lectured for all of our adult lives about how bad men are.
It is crazy out there. The internet makes it seem even crazier, but this is one of those situations where the systemic issues are real and the data is piling up to support that reality.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:13 pm to evil cockroach
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When you correct for those horrible reasons to get married, the failure rate of marriage falls quite a bit, down to about 30%
Any stats or link to verify this claim?
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:18 pm to The Pirate King
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Betting 1/2 your net worth against a 50% or greater chance of failure is a bad bet.
Reminds me of the women that divorced bill gates and jeff bezos. They instantly became some of the richest women in the world. For doing what? walking away.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:20 pm to Dragula
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Most are not motivated to move out from moms house
So they inherit mom’s house and live life with zero debt and live a nice life with savings. Sounds generational to me.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:21 pm to FLObserver
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Reminds me of the women that divorced bill gates and jeff bezos. They instantly became some of the richest women in the world. For doing what? walking away.
Even worse than that, most people would assume that the spouses who commit infidelity are precluded from "getting half", and they would be wrong.
Imagine being married, your wife cheating on you, she leaves you and still takes half of your worth. What a bargain for the man!
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:22 pm to RLDSC FAN
OK, then how is there not also a surge in unmarried young women? Why is this story about men and not men and women?
Are they discounting the millions of young men that have entered the country in the last decade?
Are they discounting the millions of young men that have entered the country in the last decade?
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:23 pm to FLObserver
quote:idk about gates but bezos' first wife was an early executive at Amazon and played a decent role in building it up in early days
Reminds me of the women that divorced bill gates and jeff bezos
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:24 pm to RLDSC FAN
It is interesting how many dudes just aren’t interested in even dating. My BIL hasn’t publicly dated anybody in almost 10 years. Just goes to work and goes home.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:26 pm to gaetti15
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Decline of morality and Church centered families and communities.
Nope.
It's the avearge girl who sleeps with a guy out of her league via the apps and that becomes "her standard."
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:26 pm to ImJustaBoy
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So they inherit mom’s house and live life with zero debt and live a nice life with savings. Sounds generational to me.
Nah…They all get kicked out eventually because even mom gets tired of her loser kid milking her dry
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:27 pm to Sam Quint
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i hope you direct the blame at them and not their kid.
There's definitely a large parental role in those situations, yes.
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it's a chicken-egg scenario. feminism is certainly a huge part of it. cost of living issues are part of it as well, but a big piece of that is unrealistic expecations of an early twenties dude these days. many of them seem to think that they should be living an upper middle class lifestyle at 23 and anything less is because they are getting screwed over. women think the same way, probably more so even, which compounds the problem.
I think that expectation is probably consistent across sexes in the younger generation. But at the same time, affordable housing (particularly in houses suited for a younger couple) is becoming more scarce for a lot of areas. So it's basically live at home because apartments have become insanely expensive and traditional starter homes (unless you're buying a previous build) are basically non-existent due to local regulations on how you can build.
When I bought a house the mortgage was cheaper than the rent of the apartment I lived in with my fiance (in 2020) that was definitely smaller.
My larger point is there are a lot of other variables other than feminism that is causing the issue in OP.
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