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re: Notre Dame cathedral is burning down

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Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:40 pm to
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It is very odd how quickly they made that claim. I mean the news just started breaking about the fire and they instantly had the cause out there.



It’s not a far fetched conclusion. There are a lot of radical Muslims in the EU. To think someone could do this is pretty realistic.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:41 pm to
quote:


It's certainly not the first time they've lit Paris on fire



I'm saying it's not typical. It still happens though, you're right.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:41 pm to
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I think after standing for over 800 years, Occam's razor would suggest arson


How many times was a large renovation happening? They keep saying on Fox news that it started in a construction area in the rear on the church.
Posted by Yaboylaroy
Member since Mar 2010
1847 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:42 pm to
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No.


Why bring it up then?
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
16020 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:42 pm to
I assume at this point we are just hoping the walls don't crumble and cave in.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:42 pm to
Construction area might’ve been an easy target to start a fire.

Devils advocate.

I think it was an accident though.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
148000 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:42 pm to
first responders are trying to save some of the art and historic pieces
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139208 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:42 pm to
I saw it was almost 8 pm local time when the spire collapsed. What time did it start? Seems like it was after typical working hours
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15916 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
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construction area


arson from a worker?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74687 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
For those chastising people for speculating immediately it was terrorism, please consider

1) Paris has had a string of church vandalism over last 2 months

2) the Notre Dame cathedral is a huge Christian symbol and thus a prime target for radical Islamic terrorism

3) Paris moreso than other major Western European cities has stifled with Islamic terror attacks over last 4 years

4) this is Holy Week

They are saying it was construction related and not terror, but any rational person would have immediately thought in their mind it could be terror when they first saw the images
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 1:45 pm
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
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How many times was a large renovation happening? They keep saying on Fox news that it started in a construction area in the rear on the church.


That’s where it originated, but they don’t know what caused it. Construction sites are easy to access.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

How many times was a large renovation happening? They keep saying on Fox news that it started in a construction area in the rear on the church.


Yeah, I hadn't actually read any details about the fire before I made my post. That's my bad.

If it started in a construction area, then that is perfectly logical.

However, it is crazy the entire cathedral ended up fully engulfed though.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51588 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
Shep just said the island that the cathedral is on is now being evacuated. What's that about?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
I think a lot of people here are hoping it's Muslims tbh. It's kinda sad.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
quote:


I think after standing for over 800 years, Occam's razor would suggest arson.


Sure, if you ignore the fact it's surrounded by scaffolding and clearly undergoing a renovation.
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Maybe, but a fire isn't really their MO, and considering the immense scaffolding and remodel work, Occam's razor would suggest it was an accident.



Or


The fact that church vandalization and arson has been widespread in Paris, Occams Razor would suggest it was foul play
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5659 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
How in God's name do you allow such an inferno to occur at a priceless architectural work that is one of the world's great cultural treasures? There must have been negligence on a tragic scale.
Posted by GeneralLee
Member since Aug 2004
14151 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:43 pm to
Probably 50/50 odds of a construction accident or arson/terrorism. But if it was arson/terrorism, they will call it a construction accident.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71179 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Churches have been vandalized everywhere in Paris recently. IF those were acts of terrorism, then it’s logical to think that hitting Notre Dame at the beginning on the Christian Holy Week would be a terrorist’s endgame

It’s too early to discredit anything -fair or foul- at this point, but the fact that this has been happening a lot lately in Paris should send up some red flags



My thoughts as well.

What part of the church were they doing the renovations on?
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7662 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 1:44 pm to
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