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Nothing is more depressing than a dragged-out job search

Posted on 5/11/21 at 5:36 pm
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 5:36 pm
Every day feels like I'm failing my wife and kid.

Since the beginning of this year I've sent out 50 applications, curated pretty highly, almost all to local businesses. Our whole metro appears to be in a hiring blitz.

I've gotten 2 interviews and no offers. Wife tried to work some connections from her last employer and got nowhere.

Pretty sure all these HR gatekeepers see retail management and just throws my app in the trash. I'm only 32. I'm not asking for the fricking moon. I'm trying to be honest about my marketable skills and prospects (hence the curated applications).

Just fricking sucks your soul out every day.
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 5:37 pm
Posted by VinegarStrokes
Georgia
Member since Oct 2015
13285 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 5:37 pm to
What movie is this from?
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

What movie is this from?


Three Men and a Little Lady

Sorry, wrong board
This post was edited on 5/11/21 at 5:39 pm
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
9349 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 5:45 pm to
There is a baw on the OT apparently doing pretty well driving for Waitr
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167089 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

I'm trying to be honest about my marketable skills and prospects (hence the curated applications).


Lie next time
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 6:04 pm to
What city are you in? And what type of work are you looking for?
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6752 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 6:16 pm to
Is this a pitch for Office Space 2?
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45084 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 6:20 pm to
I was laid off in 2015 and it took me a year to find something. I probably interviewed in person 60-70 times during that span as well.

I felt like a loser and thought everyone else that was close to me thought the same. I eventually took a job with Trugreen fertilizing yards because I didn’t want to blow out my entire savings to sit my arse at home constantly thinking about it.

Did this one guy’s yard and he called me the next day and offered me to come in for an interview for a PM job with a construction company the next day and I’ve been there 5 years now.

Just do what you can and try to stay busy. Keep your mind off of it for whatever amount of time you can.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18759 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 6:21 pm to
Truckers are in big demand.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 6:21 pm to
Not sure why you picked this board but I am in the same boat. I got a good contract buyout from my last job so its not like I am going to run out of money, but I hate not working and growing my retirement accounts.

I hate the slowness and inefficiency of the process. I had an interview with T-Mobile for a data science and made it all the way to the end, didn't get the job, but at least it only took 2 weeks, they were 100% transparent through the whole process, let me know exactly where I stood each day, and stayed engaged.

There are some companies I have been interviewing with for well over a month now and still no where near the end of the line.

If every recruiting process was like T Mobile I would not have a problem.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
26996 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

Lie next time



Getting beyond HR is the hardest part about landing a job
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10574 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 6:27 pm to
Good luck. Its easy to forget how many people are suffering. I would try to exercise every day. It relieves stress and why not get in great shape while you keep trying.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

Getting beyond HR is the hardest part about landing a job


In the last 2 weeks I've made the final interview for 6 positions and have been rejected by 5 with one still pending.

I hate when the recruiters/hiring manager call you up, as if they are about to offer you and talk about how great you were, only to say they are going with someone else.

Last Friday I get a call saying I was the rockstar candidate and by far and away had the best interviews, and I asked, if I was so great, why are you going with someone else?

They said its not always about being the best candidate, but the right candidate.

I deduced that to mean either they found some chump willing to do the job for a lot less aka an H1B visa, or I was the wrong race and gender.

A couple months ago I was skiing at Vail and told the lady on the chair lift next to me that I was about to re enter the job market and she said "Oh honey you are the wrong race and gender these days"
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Member since Oct 2014
45084 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

A couple months ago I was skiing at Vail and told the lady on the chair lift next to me that I was about to re enter the job market and she said "Oh honey you are the wrong race and gender these days"


My aunt is relatively high up in management for Progressive Insurance. During my spell she got me an interview here in Dallas as a claims adjuster and I revived all similar feedback to what you have experienced. A few days later got a call from the Dallas office that I didn’t get it. Called my aunt up to see what the deal was because she had followed up on the interview and was told I did great and that with her referral it was almost certain.

She calls to see what the deal was and tells me that they said I was the best candidate even without the referral, but that a minority who asked for $7k less than I did was chosen because it checked off a diversity box and saved them money.

Progressive Insurance, a nationwide company, choosing supposed lesser candidates over $7k, lmao.

After that I stopped applying to large companies.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

What city are you in? And what type of work are you looking for?


Northeast Tennessee.

Dream offer: Technical Writing

Actual best case transition: Entry level product or sales analysis or logistics/operations support. I've started looking at Jr project management positions in construction because some of the companies around here are pretty good about training OTJ if you're a hard worker with some appreciable skills.

Would accept: Almost anything that's Mon-Fri that pays more than 13-14/hr.

My pay isn't great but it contributes to the household (wife is an OT baller), but my schedule is nothing but nights and weekends and it leaves my wife to take care of our kid all the time while we have almost no days off together. Things as simple as a weekend day trip take weeks of planning.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 7:17 pm to
quote:

My aunt is relatively high up in management for Progressive Insurance.


I have a cousin who works as a recruiter for a company in my field and she couldn't even get me a damn interview with the hiring manager because they were only looking for "the right" candidates, aka candidates to check off boxes. My own cousin.

The whole process of recruiting candidates sucks. No sense of urgency at all. It is so slow and inefficient. No wonder its so stressful for people.

I also hate how companies look too hard for the "perfect" candidates. I've had some techincal interviews the last month where I did well on 99% of the interview but slipped up on one question and that was enough to disqualify me.

I've been a hiring manager myself before and potential/upside is what I looked for most, because you're never going to find someone who checks off every box.

I also was extremely transparent with my candidates. I always followed up with them and let them know where they stood. My last job we were hiring data analysts and a candidate decided to come in and fly on his own dime to interview in person from Atlanta to San Diego, thinking that would be enough to get him the job because it showed how much he wanted it. However this guy was 40 years old, over qualified and his interview was HORRIBLE. All he talked about was how he had always wanted to live in San Diego. That is what he spent his focus on. I told him with what we are paying for the position, the appeal of living in San Diego was going to wear off in a few weeks for him and then he'd be stuck trying to make it in his 40s with a salary that might be good enough for Atlanta, but would be tough in San Diego, and he'd be filled with regret.

I could write a whole book on horrible interview stories I've had. In 2018 I applied for a company in Boise, I talked to the recruiter over the phone and we came to an agreement on a $90k-$100k salary range, and then they fly me out there for a 3 day on site interview and the entire first day they took me around the city, telling me how great Boise was, how awesome it is, as if they were trying to sell me on moving there instead of taking their job. Then Day 2 they put me in the literal hot seat and grilled me over various questions pertaining to the role and even though I thought I did fine I swear the hiring manager spent the entire time trying to poke holes into my answers.

I figured out later why he did that - we sit down at a restaurant in the afternoon and they give me an offer, but said I was too "rusty" and needed a lot of training and coaching to get up to the level I needed to be. They offered me $30k. I was insulted. But I realize the whole purpose of the interview was to get me to fall in love with the city and the opportunity to where I would not turn it down no matter what, then beat me like a pinata in the hot seat to justify paying me a low starting salary. I told them no way, and then they made me get my own ride back to my hotel and then my own ride to the airport the next day. I had to sit in a Boise hotel room all night and for most of the next day since my flight didn't go back to Texas until 8pm the next night.

I am guessing this was a scheme to try and recruit talent at a very low cost because I had a former colleague at Raycom who also went through the same interview process and she told me it turned out the same way - they tell her $90k-$100k on the phone screen, fly her out there, sell her on the city, then tear her down in the hot seat and then gave her a lowball offer.
Posted by MLU
Member since Feb 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

Getting beyond HR is the hardest part about landing a job

If you know how the game the software used to screen applicants, it's the easiest part about landing a job...
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 7:23 pm to
Could try drywall or flooring. I have it on good authority that they are hiring inexperienced people like crazy.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118895 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

I deduced that to mean either they found some chump willing to do the job for a lot less aka an H1B visa, or I was the wrong race and gender.

A couple months ago I was skiing at Vail and told the lady on the chair lift next to me that I was about to re enter the job market and she said "Oh honey you are the wrong race and gender these days"


This is true. We were told we could hire anyone we wanted as long as their were either female, a non caucasion or both.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/11/21 at 7:26 pm to
Sorry man. I've been through it after a layoff and know that helpless feeling. It's hard not to get down on yourself.

The way companies hire today is severely broken. Job searches shouldn't be as soul crushing as they are.
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