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re: NOLA gets 2 billion from FEMA to rebuild streets

Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
36635 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 10:59 pm to
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No federal agency should give any money for roads until all the gas tax Louisiana generates is actually fricking used for roads.



It is now.



Edwards put a stop to Jindal's program of letting LSP take gas tax money.


But you can go to DOTD's website and easily find their entire budget and financial reports and audit reports. They show where every penny goes.


More easily to find than any other state agency.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30205 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:22 pm to
It will be a tragic waste of $2 billion if it doesn't include a total reworking of the treatment of surface water and groundwater along with a public education program that results in an acceptance of and action on the existential threat that the water system imposes on the future survival of the city.

Which will never happen. Thus, a $2 billion waste funded by most of us, paid to the richest of us, and accepted by all of us before the first check is ever written.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 11:28 pm
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7908 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:36 pm to


thank God that fake a-hole is no longer Mayor or the funds would be wasted
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79816 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:38 pm to
quote:

thank God that fake a-hole is no longer Mayor or the funds would be wasted



He is actually the reason the money is still around. Apparently building an assload of interest in hopes of pairing it up with future funds to actually do the infrastructure the correct way.
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3874 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
6621 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:50 pm to
The money was there (more of it) in 2006 and 2007. However, it was tied to an even larger sum for light rail, no stop trains from BR to NO. Our imbecilic elected officials squandered the chance.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79816 posts
Posted on 7/13/18 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

The money was there (more of it) in 2006 and 2007. However, it was tied to an even larger sum for light rail, no stop trains from BR to NO. Our imbecilic elected officials squandered the chance.


Was the entire lump sum there? Not, in the future money, the now money.

No way Louisiana is/was in position to contribute to these type of plans.
This post was edited on 7/13/18 at 11:53 pm
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
21951 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 12:04 am to
Don’t worry New Orleans residents I’m sure all of it will be used for the intended purpose. I’m also confident it will used efficiently. New Orleans is about to have the BEST roads.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 12:05 am
Posted by Westwego Cocktail
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2018
172 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 5:35 am to
How about hiring more cops? NOLA is a war zone 24/7
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7620 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 5:44 am to
"Im sure the mayor will use this money judiciously and there will be transparency."


Yep

LINK
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 5:50 am to
Ok. Sorry to burst you alls angry bubble (I don’t like Mitc either).

FEMA funds/grants have a multitude of requirements attached to them. Mitch cannot do whatever he wants or he risks deobligation of those funds. Meaning, if they don’t do exactly as defined when applying for them, NOLA will be out the cash. Typically, the receiptient (NOLA in this case) fronts the cash in increments and is reimbursed by the grant administrator. If the work is off track, no reimbursement or a percent reduced.

Federal grants are a pretty safe expenditure.

ETA: if the watchdogs claims have merit, FEMA will most certainly consider taking it back. They can take their time to deobligate.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 5:52 am
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
14795 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:37 am to
Half of that needs to go to a study to see how best the money is spent.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
23003 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:48 am to
5 years hence, no noticeable changes except for more new street names and signs. Maybe some band-aid asphalt dumped into one or two potholes. Richer politicians and bureaucrats. Oh and a plastic (looks like bronze) statue of Mitch atop the pedestal at (still) Lee Circle.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 6:51 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61784 posts
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:50 am to
You aren’t paying attention if you really think that. Ever been in Napaoleon in the last three years? LOL
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7620 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 6:35 am to
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If the work is off track, no reimbursement or a percent reduced.



Somehow other cities seem to have little trouble meeting these requirements.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70469 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 6:39 am to
quote:

renaming and changing all the street signs and sidewalk tiles.


Shreveport does this already
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69239 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 6:46 am to
The mayor can buy Kool cigarette trucks for airrybody in the city wit those type of reparations
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12802 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 6:51 am to
quote:

will be a tragic waste of $2 billion if it doesn't include a total reworking of the treatment of surface water and groundwater along with a public education program that results in an acceptance of and action on the existential threat that the water system imposes on the future survival of the city.

Which will never happen. Thus, a $2 billion waste funded by most of us, paid to the richest of us, and accepted by all of us before the first check is ever written.


To my understanding the funds are geared towards returning street conditions to 2004 status. So don’t expect things like permeable pavement or rain gardens to be included because they were happening then... which seems like govt bureaucracy at its best
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50031 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 6:55 am to
It doesn’t say they get 2 billion it says they will keep 2 billion that they already received. So you can bet you arse that the majority if not all of this money is already gone. You will see no improvement in the streets anywhere in New Orleans. The reason they basically wrote this off is because they know the money is gone. If they had made New Orleans pay this back it would have become a complete shite show and race issue.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
20380 posts
Posted on 7/15/18 at 7:35 am to
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Lakeview: untouched and cratered like the surface of the moon.


I've had quite a few Lakeview residents tell me they actually like the streets the way they are, especially in residential neighborhoods with the side streets away from major thoroughfares.

They say it's safer for the kids with cars not flying down well paved streets, but rather having to drive slow to keep from needing to replace their front ends once a year.
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