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re: New tax plan for bridge across Mississippi
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:46 am to doubleb
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:46 am to doubleb
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Why didn't the west bank boom when the new bridge open? .
what "new" bridge are you talking about?
quote:
It didn't boom because the landowners held onto the land
to be fair, a lot of land on the west side is used for farming. Did you really expect the cane farmers to sell it?
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Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:48 am to Areddishfish
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Lake Charles has two bridges and much smaller than the BR I10 bridge that haven't been repaired in eons. This bridge is okay.
Lake Charles has a loop too that you can take when the bridge is backed up.
Baton Rouge bridge is a disgrace. Something needs to be done about the traffic but I doubt my arse backwards home state will ever do anything.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:51 am to doubleb
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The Timed program basically ignored the BR metro area and its traffic problems.
Because it was a state wide vote rural areas got theirs, NO got theirs and BR basically got the shaft.
not exactly. The Timed program wasn't intended to address traffic congestion.
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the TIMED Program included 16 specific projects aimed at spurring economic development in Louisiana, not traffic congestion relief
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:54 am to Areddishfish
Yea because we need a 13% sales tax...
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:54 am to BigSquirrel
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I would absolutely support a toll and tax, it’s easy, let me help the stoopidz.... You tax the populace who will benefit from it the most, using a property tax. And those who pay that tax are given Swamp Passes, which allow you to freely transverse the new bridge with two vehicles per household
And I'd be ok with this if the taxpayers get free passes. Then those that pass through pay the toll. We will have to see how the plan is laid out.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:56 am to Areddishfish
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"I just thought it would be a good opportunity for the people of this region to try and fix our own problem,"
Or they could be more frugal with all of the money we already pay them in taxes?
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:58 am to Areddishfish
Without a loop how does the MS river bridge affect Livingston Parish traffic? If you have a loop sure you can ease the number of people depending on the location of the bridge. But if its south of BR then how does that help I12?
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:58 am to dcrews
They should use casino money tonfund new roads and education
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:01 am to tigerinthebueche
Like I said when the new bridge was opened in the late 60s there was no boom because the landowners held onto the land.
You just reinforced what I said.
You just reinforced what I said.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:02 am to Areddishfish
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State Senator Rick Ward (R-Port Allen) has proposed creating a special taxing district encompassing East Baton Rouge, West Baton Rouge, Ascension, Livingston, and Iberville Parishes.
This desperately needs to happen. I can't believe Rick Ward is showing more initiative and leadership than almost any Baton Rouge politician.
This could actually be used for other projects, including a loop, flood protection, or other transit developments. I'm sure the northern bypass, an Ascension/Livingston turnpike, Hooper Road bridge, and the diversion canal can also be more easily organized with this kind of regional authority.
I'm okay with the taxing district and even a fuel tax for it, but I think the new bridge should also be supplemented with toll costs.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:03 am to tigerinthebueche
Again, you reinforced what I said.
EBR was basically ignored. Here is the list of the projects, and you tell me EBR metro got its fair share. The only project in our metro area was widening US 61 from the Miss line South to where the four lane ended.
Like I said NO and rural areas got way more than their fair share.
The TIMED Program was completed in 2016 rather than the 2002 estimate of 2031. It included the following projects:
Tchoupitoulas Street (New Orleans) improvement
WestBank Expressway in Jefferson Parish from Ames Blvd. to Avenue D
Port of New Orleans improvements
Louis Armstrong International Airport improvements
U.S. 90 widening from Morgan City to Houma
West Napoleon Avenue improvements
U.S. 171 widening from Shreveport to Lake Charles
U.S. 61 widening
LA 15 widening
John James Audubon Bridge
Earhart Boulevard
Huey P. Long Bridge widening
U.S. 165 widening
U.S. 167 widening
Curtis-Coleman Memorial (Fort Buhlow) Bridge replacement
Two projects in the original plan, delayed because of environmental and legal issues, will not be funded using TIMED funds, and instead will be incorporated into the state's highway priority program:
I-12 to Bush (LA 3241) - new, 20-mile four-lane highway from I-12 to Bush (est. $230 million)
Florida Avenue Bridge - new 4-lane bridge over the Industrial Canal in New Orleans (est. $270 million)
EBR was basically ignored. Here is the list of the projects, and you tell me EBR metro got its fair share. The only project in our metro area was widening US 61 from the Miss line South to where the four lane ended.
Like I said NO and rural areas got way more than their fair share.
The TIMED Program was completed in 2016 rather than the 2002 estimate of 2031. It included the following projects:
Tchoupitoulas Street (New Orleans) improvement
WestBank Expressway in Jefferson Parish from Ames Blvd. to Avenue D
Port of New Orleans improvements
Louis Armstrong International Airport improvements
U.S. 90 widening from Morgan City to Houma
West Napoleon Avenue improvements
U.S. 171 widening from Shreveport to Lake Charles
U.S. 61 widening
LA 15 widening
John James Audubon Bridge
Earhart Boulevard
Huey P. Long Bridge widening
U.S. 165 widening
U.S. 167 widening
Curtis-Coleman Memorial (Fort Buhlow) Bridge replacement
Two projects in the original plan, delayed because of environmental and legal issues, will not be funded using TIMED funds, and instead will be incorporated into the state's highway priority program:
I-12 to Bush (LA 3241) - new, 20-mile four-lane highway from I-12 to Bush (est. $230 million)
Florida Avenue Bridge - new 4-lane bridge over the Industrial Canal in New Orleans (est. $270 million)
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 9:21 am
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:05 am to spslayto
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Not against tolls. But they want to make us pay higher taxes and pay a toll.
The people passing through (that live outside the tax district) will contribute to the costs of construction with tolls.
They could contribute via taxes as well if it's a fuel tax.
Absolutely no way that the people in just those 4 parishes should shoulder the entire costs of a critical piece of state infrastructure. That's why they need tolls.....or state/federal funds.
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 9:07 am
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:08 am to tigerinthebueche
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not exactly. The Timed program wasn't intended to address traffic congestion.
Whatever its intent, Baton Rouge was left out of TIMED entirely. That was the state's largest infrastructure development program in history, and Baton Rouge got nothing.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:16 am to member12
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I'm okay with the taxing district
Yes, a taxing district worked so well with the Comite Diversion Canal........ oh wait a second now.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:17 am to Areddishfish
frick that guy
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:17 am to member12
You realize those same people have been paying for flood protection for many many years in taxes for something that was never finished...
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:24 am to member12
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fuel tax
so how much more tax do you want to add to fuel? It's already about half of what we pay now.
How about a toll - so that the 1000's of out of state rigs that pass thru on a a daily basis pay, or the 1000 of out state travelers that pass thru pay.
Florida does it, Texas does it, and countless other states do it. It makes money. It pays for roads.
It's pure stupidity that our state doesn't take advantage of tolls.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:25 am to TeddyPadillac
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Start around Walker or Livingston, build an interstate that goes through Central and then connects to 110. Do some work connecting 110 to the old bridge and some work on the other side of that bridge to make it an interstate and then get that back to I-10. There's a bypass without a bridge. You could make trucks have to take it that are passing through.
omg do you people ever look at these studies.. that not a "bypass without a bridge". That is the path of the proposed northern loop. And to make it feasible the 190 bridge would need some major improvement. and judging by how much it cost to improve the Huey P (1.2 billion) you could build a 2 new bridges, audubon Brisge cost about half a billion.
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 9:36 am
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:25 am to member12
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Whatever its intent, Baton Rouge was left out of TIMED entirely. That was the state's largest infrastructure development program in history, and Baton Rouge got nothing.
and whose fault is that?
my point being, why be pissed (20 years later) that a bridge was built as it was intended, for the purpose it was intended, when the local leaders in BR didn't have the vision, forethought, or initiative to get something for BR from the same program that funded the bridge you malign?
Aww, poor BR got left out of the TIMED program. Be pissed at your local reps.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 9:27 am to Boudreaux35
quote:you havent looked at the project outlook for LADOTD have you?
The annual federal funding that LA receives for bridges will not touch the cost of a new MS River Bridge. A new bridge with connecting roads will be over $1B.
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