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re: New tax plan for bridge across Mississippi

Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:32 am to
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
16163 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:32 am to
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Should’ve put their money into a bridge in BR instead of that useless bridge in St. Francisville. Peak time traffic on that bridge is lower than minimal traffic on the new bridge. It sees so little traffic that it probably wouldn’t warrant running multiple ferry boats at peak times like they run in Plaquemine/St. Gabriel ferry.



This right here!
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11638 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:34 am to
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Y’all are gonna have to pay the troll toll if you wanna get into that boy’s hole.


I love you for this
Posted by LCA131
Home of the Fake Sig lines
Member since Feb 2008
77713 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:36 am to
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I love you for this


sigh...you love that closeted phag for anything he does and it really makes me jealous.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
23471 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:37 am to
Wards tax plan for bridge:

Raise taxes to get three times what bridge will cost.

Also get federal money, to “help”

Bid out job and get lowest bidder, and then lowball the shite out of them for an even lower price.

Hook up your buddies with “contracts”

Profit

Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:44 am to
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Wards tax plan for bridge:

Raise taxes to get three times what bridge will cost.

Also get federal money, to “help”

Bid out job and get lowest bidder, and then lowball the shite out of them for an even lower price.

Hook up your buddies with “contracts”

Profit


I honestly feel bad for yall because that quote is roughly 90% accurate.
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
22012 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:46 am to
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Good thing they spent all that money on a bridge that connects St. Francisville and New Roads to relieve that massive problem.


Exactly. I use the bridge every day and a new bridge would make the commute much easier. But I can't rationalize why they want us to pay more taxes and also have to pay tolls to pay private investors back when they were able to get funding for a bridge no one needed (no matter the reason). Government wasting money at its best. And this proposed new bridge will be used by many interstate drivers too....not just residents in the 5 parish area.
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 7:47 am
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:48 am to
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Exactly. I use the bridge every day and a new bridge would make the commute much easier. But I can't rationalize why they want us to pay more taxes and also have to pay tolls to pay private investors back when they were able to get funding for a bridge no one needed (no matter the reason). Government wasting money at its best. And this proposed new bridge will be used by many interstate drivers too....not just residents in the 5 parish area.



You can toll the loop and make both.

Why are folks against tolls?

How do you think Houston and Dallas build stacks in a year or less? Government?
Posted by spslayto
Member since Feb 2004
22012 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:50 am to
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Why are folks against tolls?


Not against tolls. But they want to make us pay higher taxes and pay a toll.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:52 am to
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Not against tolls. But they want to make us pay higher taxes and pay a toll.



Ah, nah I'm not down for both. A toll allows outside commuters to throw in a percentage when they use it. A tax would just levy the local population.

A tax would be wrong just because of going thru-traffic.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
57285 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:53 am to
Sorry
I'm not voting for taxes for that.
Let the west bank pay for that.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30750 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:54 am to
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ou can't have a loop without a new bridge.


Not a loop, but a bypass you could.

Start around Walker or Livingston, build an interstate that goes through Central and then connects to 110. Do some work connecting 110 to the old bridge and some work on the other side of that bridge to make it an interstate and then get that back to I-10. There's a bypass without a bridge. You could make trucks have to take it that are passing through.

The true loop needs to happen to the south. Walker/Livingston needs to connect to Prairieville/Gonzales, which then needs to keep going southwest and cross the river meeting back up around Ramah/Grosse Tete. Trucks going to New Orleans should have to take that.

That way the only trucks going through Baton Rouge should be stopping in Baton Rouge.

But that'll never happen b/c it makes too much sense.

And I am not footing the bill for something that is the responsibility at the state/federal level.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:55 am to
This is moronic. Do NOT vote for this.

The Feds pay for these bridges. This is a scam to dupe more tax dollars out of local citizens who don't know the way they get these projects funded through the Federal Government. These local taxes will almost surely be re-appropriated.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 7:59 am to
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used by many interstate drivers too....not just residents in the 5 parish area.



I wouldn't be surprised at all to see that the majority of travelers across the bridge everyday are not from the five parish area.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:00 am to
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This is moronic. Do NOT vote for this.


The tax yes it's a bad deal.

quote:

The Feds pay for these bridges


Waiting for them to fix BR infrastructure will leave yall further behind the rest of the US.

What do all booming populations have in common right now?

Educated population
Infrastructure
Beneficial tax policies

You can make a decent argument BR has zero of those three.

This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 8:01 am
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
22281 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:01 am to
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The Feds pay for these bridges.


The annual federal funding that LA receives for bridges will not touch the cost of a new MS River Bridge. A new bridge with connecting roads will be over $1B.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30750 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:01 am to
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You can make a decent argument BR has zero of those three.


decent argument?
I'd challenge you to make a decent argument that they actually have just 1 of those.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43551 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:02 am to
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decent argument?
I'd challenge you to make a decent argument that they actually have just 1 of those.


I was trying to be nice
Posted by PortHudsonPlaya
Houston
Member since Jul 2017
3170 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:02 am to
I don't trust them slugs to do anything with my taxes other than line their pockets.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
6538 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:03 am to
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This is moronic. Do NOT vote for this.


Sadly, it almost would certainly get approved. I've seen so many taxes get approved by wide margins mostly because no one even reads the ballot and there are probably more people who pay little to no tax in the area taking the vote than those that do so they don't care.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:05 am to
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The annual federal funding that LA receives for bridges will not touch the cost of a new MS River Bridge


It is the job of the Louisiana politicians and the LA DOTD to get the funding from the Feds.

The Audubon bridge in St. Francisville was 100% federally funded through a loophole in a geographic economic development spending bill

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