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re: New Orleans is worth fighting for

Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:08 am to
Posted by Crawdaddy
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:08 am to
Have fun going down fighting for it.

I'll defend God's country up here on the Northshore
Posted by BugAC
St. George
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:09 am to
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New Orleans is worth fighting for




It's already lost, and has been for decades. New Orleans has had a Democrat mayor for 150+ years, and the results NEVER change. It got a reprieve when Katrina came through and flushed some of the crime to other states/cities. But it didn't take lone for NOLA to revert back to it's true self.

New Orleans will NEVER change. All you can do is hope it becomes a little less violent. It's a unique city and can be fun when it's safe, but random acts of violence is the norm, not the anomaly, and sooner or later, your luck will run out.

New Orleans has culture problem, and now, has a sever lack of law enforcement to combat such a problem due to progressivism. And "culture" shows no signs of wanting to change. And when the mayor is part of the problem, crime is left unchecked.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11723 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:10 am to
New Orleans has had happen to it exactly what it deserves. When you embrace a bunch of transplants who make a caricature of the culture, while believing in things like “restorative justice” and having elected leaders more concerned about lining their pocket and not the economic well being of the city you get this mess. The city has passed a point of no return.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
3239 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:12 am to
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1. Recall Latoya 2. Enforce the law. 3. Elect a governor who has the courage to call a spade a spade. 4. Elect a mayor who will hire a chief of police who will enforce the law. 5. Elect a DA who will prosecute the criminals.


This is the way.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:18 am to
None of those things are remotely realistic.

You might as well expect magical flying pixies to give everyone in New Orleans three wishes
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3537 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:23 am to
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It absolutely 100% is not.


I’m not a New Orleans lover or hater, but we need to start “fighting” for everything that is being lost.

Things have gotten as bad as they have because we got comfortable and lost our fighting spirit.
Posted by Richard Grayson
Bestbank
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:25 am to
Any innocent kid we can help break out of the cycle of violence and poverty caused by a culture that glorifies single motherhood and devalues education makes all the fighting worth it. Its not easy but it’s rewarding when you can make a difference in someone’s life. Maybe if we can reach enough kids a leader out of that culture can emerge to help fight it. Maybe a community pocket can begin to push back against the blight and violence plaguing their lives.

It’s easy to paint with broad generalizations and ignore the problem. I understand that. It’s what our brains are wired to do when confronted with uncomfortable things.

And yes it seems hopeless and stupid to keep fighting. I understand that too. But those ghettos are full of innocent kids who didn’t choose to be born into the world they inherit. They’re just kids. And they don’t know any better. And neither do their parents. And often they don’t start life with the means or the ability to improve their situation. But you can help equip them with that means and ability. That’s a powerful thing.

And some of you will happily tell those kids “you already have no chance in life so give up because no one cares about you and no one will help.” What a terrible idea to put into someone’s head. And yet it’s parroted every day everywhere from media to politics to this message board.

Step back thing about what you’re saying and what your actions mean instead of trying to score stupid argument points or ignoring the true reality of the situation

And every single one of those kids is worth fighting for. Every one of them. Someone has to try and help the innocent fight the predators. I’ll happily lay down my life fighting for them.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 8:30 am
Posted by Swagga
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:25 am to
People who don’t want to fight for places like New Orleans are shortsighted. They don’t realize that ultimately what happens is New Orleans crumbles and the disease spreads.

And none of us live anywhere that isn’t at risk. It’s time to wake up. We have to start making changes and stop trying to just run from places we don’t like.
This post was edited on 2/20/23 at 8:26 am
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7319 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:33 am to
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those ghettos

It’s not just the ghettos that hold New Orleans down. There’s a certain mentality that took root in New Orleans decades ago that holds it back. It’s a mentality of entitlement and uniqueness. New Orleans is the 500-pound middle aged woman looking at her prom photo and thinking to herself “I’m so beautiful everyone must love me!!!”
Posted by Buck Wylde
Member since Jun 2019
472 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:41 am to
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And how would you start this battle to save it?



Firebomb. Bulldoze. Firebomb again. Rebuild.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:42 am to
It really is a terrible location for a city. Most of it is a bowl.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:42 am to
People fought for New Orleans.

They lost.

The demographics have shifted so far in NO and BR, that they are not save-able.
Posted by Buck Wylde
Member since Jun 2019
472 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:42 am to
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Well, if you go to war against the people ruining New Orleans, the media will label you the worst ever.


Unless you don't give a f*ck.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48646 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:46 am to
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The demographics have shifted so far in NO and BR, that they are not save-able.

People didn't fight for either. They moved to the suburbs which is how they got where they are today. Can't say I really blame them.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:51 am to
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People didn't fight for either
they did.

Katrina shifted BR demographics so badly that the fight was over before it began. Broome would win in a landslide if she ran today.

So would Teedy.

Nothing left to fight for, inmates control the asylum. Normals are left to plead for such basic things like personal safety, and safe schools. . .only to be dismissed as racist for the asking.
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:52 am to
You’re heavily invested apparently in convincing everyone NOLA and BR are done. You need to get some fresh air.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48646 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:54 am to
I think I read a few years ago that the entire BR metro only kept about 10k permanent residents from Katrina. That's not really enough to shift demographics and that wasn't all in the actual city. John Parker did more to shift the demographics of BR in the 80s and 90s than Katrina.
Posted by Buck Wylde
Member since Jun 2019
472 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:57 am to
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It really is a terrible location for a city. Most of it is a bowl.


Yea, a toilet bowl at that.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76525 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:59 am to
It wasn't just the numbers that remained.

The violence they wrought caused middle class whites and blacks to flee key areas for the suburbs.

Tara High School was 70-30 white in 2000

98-2 black in 2010
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261036 posts
Posted on 2/20/23 at 8:59 am to
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You’re heavily invested apparently in convincing everyone NOLA and BR are done. You need to get some fresh air.


Go live somewhere else for a bit, you'll be convinced too.

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