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re: New law in New York requires employers to disclose salaries for all job opportunities
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:30 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:30 pm to lsupride87
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Why should this be a law? Government is out of control
How would you feel if restaurants didn't disclose prices and charged what they thought individual diners would pay?
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Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:30 pm to lsupride87
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Why should this be a law? Government is out of control
It shouldn't be. But if the government is going to regulate private industry within an inch of its life anyway, this law at least makes sense.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:31 pm to athenslife101
transparency is good but greedy bean counters will try to find any way around it they can
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:33 pm to lsupride87
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Why should this be a law? Government is out of control
That’s fricking rich on this board of small town fake as frick pretend conservatives.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:39 pm to Eighteen
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We really have to protect people from being able to negotiate a salary these days?
It protects everyone from wasting time. I could see a job title I want, but they advertise for a salary 25% under market value I won't waste time applying.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:41 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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How would you feel if restaurants didn't disclose prices and charged what they thought individual diners would pay?
That doesn't make sense in this context.
That would be analogous to the employer not telling the individual what they'd be making before they hired them.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:44 pm to SlimTigerSlap
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How would you feel if restaurants didn't disclose prices and charged what they thought individual diners would pay?
What?
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:45 pm to Sherman Klump
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How does that benefit you? You already know they make more than you.
Yearly review time, it’s helpful.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:46 pm to athenslife101
I’d prefer they disclose the salary, but not forced to by the government. Just more government overreach.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:49 pm to GRTiger
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That doesn't make sense in this context.
That would be analogous to the employer not telling the individual what they'd be making before they hired them.
I wasn't using "charged" in the past tense, but rather making a determination to charge.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:54 pm to athenslife101
So if a company doesn't want to show they are hiring someone and paying them more than the person who had the position before, they can just advertise it for that amount then give that person a raise after they are hired?
Is this to prevent people applying for a job that will not want it because of the salary? I hate these laws that have a bunch of loopholes to the point it doesn't even make sense to have.
But then again its in NY state so IDGAF.
Is this to prevent people applying for a job that will not want it because of the salary? I hate these laws that have a bunch of loopholes to the point it doesn't even make sense to have.
But then again its in NY state so IDGAF.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:54 pm to This GUN for HIRE
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Just more government overreach.
It would be great if they would disclose without intervention. That said, you know they won’t and this absolutely benefits people.
Of all the things to be complaining about government overreach in, let’s start with the things that hurt people or provide no benefits to anyone
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:55 pm to athenslife101
I love this.
I think it’s BS that it’s just unknown what you could get or couldn’t get for pay
I think it’s BS that it’s just unknown what you could get or couldn’t get for pay
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:59 pm to athenslife101
This is a good thing for workers. It provides an additional, valid data point for workers to understand the market and other job opportunities.
Weird that people are shitting on this.
Weird that people are shitting on this.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 8:59 pm to athenslife101
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That said, you know they won’t
Have you looked at job sites lately? I'd say most postings have at least a number+, if not a range.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 9:00 pm to OweO
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Is this to prevent people applying for a job that will not want it because of the salary?
No. It’s based on the meme that people of different races are offered different starting salaries because certain groups are more likely to negotiate starting salaries.
So if they have to disclose it everyone knows what the job pays. In theory. It’s nonsense.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 9:01 pm to OleVaught14
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protects everyone from wasting time. I could see a job title I want, but they advertise for a salary 25% under market value I won't waste time applying.
We need a law to prevent people from “wasting time”?
Posted on 11/1/22 at 9:01 pm to Fat and Happy
I mean, I also got underpaid at my new job. I went from a job that highly underpaid it’s workers (and they were open about it) to a job I was so happy to be getting a large increase I didn’t quite realize I was about 10% lower than the average person at my position level till after my negotiations were done.
To be fair though, I figure my position level actually varies 20% either way to the base salary when experience and other things are factored in
To be fair though, I figure my position level actually varies 20% either way to the base salary when experience and other things are factored in
Posted on 11/1/22 at 9:01 pm to athenslife101
This is so stupid.
Posted on 11/1/22 at 9:02 pm to Fat and Happy
Don’t really have a problem with it. I worked for a large company 20+ years ago that did this. It was like govt, jobs had a pay grade and the pay band was common knowledge for each grade.
We just filled position at my current company, and out of dozens of applicants, the pay grade was below their needs. What a waste of time for everyone.
We just filled position at my current company, and out of dozens of applicants, the pay grade was below their needs. What a waste of time for everyone.
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