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re: New Employer Covid-19 Vaccine and Testing Rules Unveiled by FedGov

Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:50 am to
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4784 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:50 am to
The elites are excited about making lists of ‘noncompliant’ people through their newly-deputized low-functioning serfs.

The elites are excited about supply chain problems.

The elites are excited about so-called green energy mandates.

Screw the elites.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26336 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:53 am to
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frick off Joe. I don’t give a shite if my employees have the covid shot or not, neither should the federal government.



My employer is massive, so we have the mandate to comply with. We've lost a few people right at the deadline - the ones I know were mostly the vegetarian, hyper health conscious types. Under normal circumstances they'd probably be just fine with Biden.

The messed up part is that employee travel is entirely voluntary for now. Most of us work from home and have been since April 2020.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51859 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:53 am to
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If they are under 100 employees, they might not get harassed. At least not about this.


From PT

Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54835 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:54 am to
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but I'm more than a little uncomfortable with sweeping, authoritarian mandates and fines imposed on employers that are designed to hit the livelihoods of people who choose not to get the vaccine. It's not the government's business IMO, but that's probably just my age talking.
it’s pretty anti American IMO

I think it’s a prudent decision for almost all adult Americans to be vaccinated, but I’ll almost always fall on the side of individual choice when it comes to medical care.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6738 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:54 am to
Biden admin is so clueless.

The elections a couple of days ago were a referendum on COVID mandates.

The midterms are going to be a bloodbath.

I mean this with no respect at all: If you are pro-mandate, frick you.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26336 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:56 am to
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LSUJML


Fantastic. More authoritarian government intrusion on our livelihoods.

If you want to mandate this for your employees, I trust you are doing so from an educated perspective on the consequences of doing so and the risk of losing some people.

But employers shouldn't be forced to do this by the government. This is nuts.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 8:59 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33740 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 8:57 am to
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I'm team Pfizer....but I'm more than a little uncomfortable with sweeping, authoritarian mandates and fines imposed on employers that are designed to hit the livelihoods of people who choose not to get the vaccine.


Just wait until the definition of "vaccinated" is revised to requiring a 3rd shot, then more

The goalpost have moved so far away from the initial "goal" they aren't even in the same state as the playing field. And why wouldn't they move them? This is ALL arbitrary. The executive branch, with many in the legislative and judicial branches happily cheering them along, are simply governing by fiat. Sure, they "asked nicely" for you to voluntarily comply. But now they have no choice but to try to force you to do so.

I have no objection whatsoever to the availability of a "vaccine". I think it is a good thing it is available to all American. But it is going to be a very harsh wakeup call when millions of currently "vaccinated" Americans suddenly find out they "unvaccinated" when the definition is arbitrarily and unliterally changed to advance the next step of the agenda...all under the farce of "public health."
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26336 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:03 am to
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Just wait until the definition of "vaccinated" is revised to requiring a 3rd shot, then more


Nothing compared to how people are going to respond to a mandate that younger kids get the vaccine. That's not popular. Not even up here in crazy cat lady country.
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 9:04 am
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12146 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:05 am to
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We should be shooting already.
What is stopping you?
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11817 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:09 am to
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Alt26


quote:

The goalpost have moved so far away from the initial "goal" they aren't even in the same state as the playing field


The goal post never moved. The media was able to convince people that they were. 0 covid cases and deaths is the goal post and it's been cemented in the center of the field with 12 feet poles in the ground.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25782 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:11 am to
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I deal with OSHA regularly, they're going to have their hands full with this one.


I don't just deal with OSHA, I know them intimately. They will fine the piss out of a few major companies then the rest will fall like dominos. People that think this is going away are burying their heads in the sand.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
73379 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:13 am to
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The goal post never moved.


false. they changed which numbers they wanted to use based on what ever numbers fit their agenda.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5033 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:13 am to
OSHA will be more than happy to put large companies right out of business. They must be living every minute of this, as it’s a new expansion of their power. This opens Pandora’s Box. What OSHA rule is off limits after this?
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
21742 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:14 am to
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I'm team Pfizer



you mean peter puffer
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
11926 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:15 am to
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New Employer Covid-19 Vaccine and Testing Rules Unveiled by FedGov



Yeah, that's cool and all.... but it'll never stick. Just like the bullshite spewed about it a couple of months ago hasn't gone anywhere... not going to happen.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107803 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:20 am to
Biden needs to frick off
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33000 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:21 am to
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The goal post never moved.


Posted by tes fou
Member since Feb 2014
945 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:21 am to
This is about safety not politics.

Then they hold onto guidelines and release them day after elections.

frick these people and honestly frick anyone who complies with them. First step to defeating these idiots is mass non-compliance.
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
25782 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:22 am to
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not going to happen.


Man, I love you baws, but then you really don't know OSHA at all. This is like a power surge to them.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
24474 posts
Posted on 11/4/21 at 9:22 am to
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Oates Mustache


Can you list all the ETS that has survived from OSHA.

You are speaking of this like it is a valid OSHA rule, but it is not. I am not doubting OSHAs tactics in enforcement, but they have taken several losses in the ETS space I believe?
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 9:24 am
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