Page 1
Page 1
Started By
Message
locked post

New $1.35B renewable natural gas plant being considered in Reserve, LA

Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:14 am
Posted by Yaboylsu63
Member since Mar 2014
3444 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:14 am
Anyone in that area know anything about this project? Looks to be slated by a company out of Toronto (Woodland Biofuels).

If green lit, it’s projected to create some good jobs for the area.
I’m familiar with biodiesel, but never seen a bio-NG plant. What’s the likelihood of this coming to fruition in that area?

LINK
Posted by jlovel7
NOT Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
24078 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:16 am to
Always good to have alternatives in reserve.









I’ll see myself out.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42296 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:18 am to
Don’t know the likelihood but I hope it does
Posted by TIGERHOLD
Orleans Parish
Member since Mar 2022
1270 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:20 am to
Get ready for the lawsuits and permit denials by Biden’s handlers
Posted by Yaboylsu63
Member since Mar 2014
3444 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:25 am to
Wouldn’t they typically sue if it was a plant for traditional NG production?

It being bio-NG and “carbon negative”, wouldn’t that be in line with their schtick?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29230 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Wouldn’t they typically sue if it was a plant for traditional NG production?

It being bio-NG and “carbon negative”, wouldn’t that be in line with their schtick?


No. Your Rise St. James, Bucket Brigade and Inclusive Louisiana type NGOs will still protest and file any lawsuits they can.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:43 am to
When they say they are using "Waste Biomass" to produce useable fuels like methane, hydrogen, methanol, ethanol, propanol and normal and isobutanol the source molecule is cellulose likely from bagasse. Cellulose is a long chain molecule of smaller glucose molecules.

The challenge has always been breaking down cellulose cost effectively to make the smaller sugar molecules available. It appears this company, Woodland Biofuels has accomplished this. Just speculating but they probably genetically engineered a bacteria of the genius Clostridium to do this work.

Then after breaking down cellulose the byproduct is likely mixed with other prokaryotes and eukaryotes for specific fuels. Anaerobes for methane production and yeast for alcohol fuels.

Pretty cool project.
This post was edited on 9/24/24 at 9:36 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138925 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:46 am to
This sounds like yet another ethanol debacle where it takes more energy to produce per unit than it actually puts out.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29230 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:48 am to
quote:

This sounds like yet another ethanol debacle where it takes more energy to produce per unit than it actually puts out.


Like the shuttered BP Biofuels down in Mermentau?
Posted by LSUPhreaK
LaPlace, La.
Member since Dec 2003
10944 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:52 am to
Yeah. frick those people. They are paid environazis that enrich themseand don’t really give a shite about the environment. The rubies terms like “environmental racism” to fire up their out of town donors. They’re the ones holding up the permitting of Formosa in St. James.
Posted by Liger43
Member since Sep 2019
647 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:52 am to
Some progressive group was able to block a grain elevator recently on the west bank of St.John Parish. Refineries are the only type of businesses this area is going to get to create good jobs. You have a choice to live in an area that is reliant on this type of industry so if you don't like it then you should move. If it was my choose I'd find a way to push it through by all means possible.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138925 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Like the shuttered BP Biofuels down in Mermentau?

Biofuels always seem to go belly up. The only one that I’ve seen that’s been reasonably successful is Diamond Green in Norco but from what I understand they’ve got a huge contract with Disney World.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
55992 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:01 am to
cancer alley an impoverished neighborhood
Posted by Keith13
Member since Apr 2024
453 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:05 am to
Ive never heard of renewable NG either way could be good jobs. But im sure the Rise St James group will kill it and have it go to texas or mississippi
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35539 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:05 am to
quote:

they probably genetically engineered a bacteria


I've seen this movie. It doesn't end well.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40355 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:07 am to
quote:

The challenge has always been breaking down cellulose cost effectively to make the smaller sugar molecules available. It appears this company, Woodland Biofuels has accomplished this. Just speculating but they probably genetically engineered a bacteria of the genius Clostridium to do this work.



i further speculate that the "cost effectiveness" is heavily subsidized
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:11 am to
quote:

This sounds like yet another ethanol debacle where it takes more energy to produce per unit than it actually puts out.


It does sound like that.

"More energy" usually means government subsidies to balance out the equation and make it profitable.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:13 am to
quote:

i further speculate that the "cost effectiveness" is heavily subsidized


I agree with this speculation.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7612 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 9:33 am to
It will be located on already industrialized land. The Global Plex plant, which was once Godchaux sugar refinery. I don't see that much opposition at this point.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138925 posts
Posted on 9/24/24 at 10:19 am to
quote:

It does sound like that. "More energy" usually means government subsidies to balance out the equation and make it profitable.

If this made economic sense, manufacturers would’ve been doing it. It only exists in fantasy land where money is free.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 1Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram