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re: Need the Wisdom of the OT.

Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:17 am to
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:17 am to
The fact that you are asking the OT about this tells you exactly why you are making 20K less than your friend.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
58885 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:20 am to
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One of my colleagues slipped up and mentioned his salary which is $20K more than I make

Y'all work remote or in an office?

My last I was so pissed when I found out that a newly hired co-worker was making a little more than me. Then I remember she lives in San Diego and I live in TN. Cost of living is much different and probably was worked into her salary negotiations, and then I calmed down.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1393 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:29 am to
quote:

it’s on his employer to justify why he is being paid 20k less than his coworker.


This is patently false. An employee is "worth" what he is worth to a company irrespective of other employees. Maybe this person was making more money at his other job, and stated that he would only make the move for X number of dollars. Or maybe this person had the same salary but a company car (or myriad other benefit options) so your company ponied up the money to make the deal.

Your coworker either has more experience, he out-negotiated you, or the company was desperate for employees so they overpaid (that happens, too).

Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71819 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:29 am to
This will end badly. for you and your coworker.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
24485 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:55 am to
In my experience, the best way to get a pay raise at a corporation is to quit then come back a few months later.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47454 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:56 am to
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dude could be baiting you with a lie

About 30 years ago one of my friends was asked by another young coworker what he made. These guys had gone to high school together. My friend told him reluctantly, then he asked what his salary was. The first guy said, “I’d rather not say.”

My friend was pissed!
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83845 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:57 am to
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the best way to get a pay raise at a corporation is to quit then come back a few months later.


or retire and be rehired as a consultant, consulting on exactly what you were doing as an employee
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
104685 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:04 am to
So many questions.

Is the difference in pay from fries to grill really $20k?

How are you still on fries after 12 years?
Posted by WillFerrellisking
Member since Jun 2019
2016 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:09 am to
lol, your colleague is lying about his salary
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
25107 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 11:10 am to
quote:

his salary which is $20K more than I make


He must be hotter than you.

Sorry. Dems the breaks.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1064 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:20 pm to
1. Be dang sure that it's a fact your co-worker makes $20k more than you, which is why I'd not recommend even bringing it up.
2. Be able to show you bring that much value to the company.
3. Be able to show that your responsibilities and production equal or exceed the coworker.
4. Be realistic in what your skill set would bring on the open market especially if your coworker is full of it.

Tenure is not proportional to value. If someone is producing more value, directly or indirectly, then they should be paid more than those who are producing less.

Asking for and receiving a big raise with or without comparison to a coworker's salary or another offer you sought out means you're setting the bar higher. You now need to deliver.
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
7886 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:24 pm to
Go in and raise a fuss may end up with them hiring someone else to replace you, at 20K less than you earn now.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 12:27 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
83845 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:27 pm to
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Go in and raise a fuss my end up with them hiring someone else to replace you, at 20K less than you earn now.


pretty sure OP is the only person in the world to have obeyed this warning

Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
145052 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:33 pm to
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Need the Wisdom of the OT.
Posted by Ihatethiscity
Garden District
Member since May 2022
140 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:04 pm to
You won't get it. 12 years and 20k under your coworker? Lol you've been taken for a ride for a LOOONNNG time I imagine. Hopefully you're not in some niche profession and can bounce.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
55695 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:08 pm to
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One of my colleagues slipped up and mentioned his salary which is $20K more than I make….. I know you make your own deals but I did not have a chance to negotiate on my promotional raise 2 years ago. I feel the need to speak to management or just find another job. Been at my workplace for 12 years.


Start looking for other opportunities, maybe even do an interview or two to see what sort of money others in your position and with your experience are making outside your company. Maybe even talk to a headhunter.

If that $20K over what you're making seems to be the norm, take that information to your employer. If they tell you to go pound sand, follow up on those interviews.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95962 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:09 pm to
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een at my workplace for 12 years.


With that kind of tenure, you're a recruiter's wet dream once you show up on their radar (obviously depending on your field, industry, etc).

Update your resume and start replying to any and all job offers on LinkedIn and Indeed. This is a fast way to get on recruiters radar screens as third party recruiters working on commission are who post about 80% of the job listings on these sites.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4894 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

One of my colleagues slipped up and mentioned his salary which is $20K more than I make….. I know you make your own deals but I did not have a chance to negotiate on my promotional raise 2 years ago. I feel the need to speak to management or just find another job. Been at my workplace for 12 years.



He fixed the ice cream machine.... for a day
Posted by AirbusDawg
Milton, Ga
Member since Jan 2018
2757 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:16 pm to
I would start looking for another job before asking to talk.

Good chance you and your friend that makes $20k more will get canned.

If your friends gets fired, expect him to come at you.

I know it sucks that you found out, but ask yourself one question, were you happy with what you made before hearing your friend made more? If you were, I would wait it out until your next contract or raise comes up.
Posted by Bulldozer1899
Member since Aug 2017
158 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 1:27 pm to
find another job. Same boat and left
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