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re: Need the OT's help: Finding a new career path

Posted on 12/27/18 at 9:40 pm to
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38534 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 9:40 pm to
Be a cop, baw.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38225 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 9:41 pm to
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Yes which is why I said “which I understand” in the original pos



But you really don’t cause you then state your ideal scenario which likely won’t happen. You’re just paying lip service. Quit hoping/looking for the ideal and get on with it. Take the entry level gig and get your foot in the door. From there you can leap frog your way to your ideal. Your prior teaching/coaching experience is irrelevant to procurement, logistics, scheduling, etc. you need experience of and in whatever industry you want to get into.

I’m not trying to hurt your feelings, I’m being honest. The jobs you listed are sought after and the people who get them have experience relevant to them. You’re the odd man out. Do something to fix that. Then you can be the replacement for the retiree who’s on their way out the door.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 9:43 pm to
Sticking to my first post, baw’s a dreamer, not a doer
Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
63272 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 9:50 pm to
I don’t have any specific job offers for you, but it sounds to me like you would be a good safety person or something like that where you have to be able to get along well with people as well as leading safety meetings, give CPR training, etc.
Posted by YogaPants
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4704 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 9:51 pm to
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I was blessed with the gift of gab


go sale shite,and sale a lot of it
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
17054 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 9:51 pm to
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You are too old to start a career in construction.



Lol. I started at 39 with just home renovation experience.

Phase 1: Couple months working for someone. $1500/ week
Phase 2: Self-employed subcontractor for 3 years. 80 -150k a year
Phase 3: Contractor with one big client and one crew. 400 - 500k a year
Phase 4: Get more clients and crews (working on it now). Untold riches

If you have some skill and can dress and speak well, you can write your own ticket. You just can’t get too comfortable working for other people.
Posted by couv1217
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3594 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:02 pm to
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Sticking to my first post, baw’s a dreamer, not a doer


I’m applying to everything on every site. After no luck getting any call backs, this was my last place to reach out too.

Not sure how much doing you want me to do? If you have any suggestions on how to get in, please by all means give suggestions rather than condosending observations.
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
29195 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:04 pm to
Go to craigslist - lots of cheap paying jobs on there
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
93541 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:07 pm to
I did, you’re looking for a recipe or checklist, not putting you down, you just need to look at the direction that you want to move in and hit the ground running, think of it as moving closer to self actualization first, as opposed to, “how much is this going to pay?” that’s part of the payoff too

ETA: I get paid pretty well but have never, ever, not one time approached what I do as just a job and have always looked forward to going to “work”
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 10:10 pm
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43530 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:30 pm to
Baw, the last thing I need is another PM, fresh with his PMP, asking me how to do his job.


We have enough of those. If you are serious about your PMP, you better be prepared to be able to answer / be held accountable for real answers on whatever project you are on.

For instance, just using my field (telecom), if you walk into my lab and ask me what a Radio is, I may laugh at you and then take a few days to reply back.

Don’t be that guy.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10746 posts
Posted on 12/27/18 at 11:32 pm to
Supply chain management
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:42 am to
Sales has been very good to me. I rarely recommend it to people because it is definitely not for everyone, but OP sounds like someone who might be a good fit.

My advice: look into various B2B industries (industrial, medical, tech, etc) and decide on a goal that is interesting. Then comes the hard part: find someone to hire you and go out and sell some shite. Doubtful that you land in your ideal niche right out of the gate, but you have to establish a track record that you can go out and push numbers. Couple years of that under your belt, and you can go get hired on to sell something you really enjoy.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7771 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 6:13 am to
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you sound like someone who would love a Project Management kind of role in a corporation


Exactly what I thought. Project managers are squared away, intelligent, disciplined, and strong communicators. OP, look into some local classes, join the local chapter of PMI, and see if that's a good route for you. Network your arse off.
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3856 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 6:14 am to
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Do you have to work turnaround hours as a turnaround scheduler?

As far as I can tell, this listing is just for a turnaround, so, yeah you’d work the 13 on 1 off. If they’re planning to retain after, I have no idea. If they did retain you as a full time scheduler, you’d work a 40 hour week with some OT sprinkled in, I’d imagine.

Looks like a good gig to get your foot in the door and get some experience.

I don’t have any connection to UP. I just saw the listing and passed it on.
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28921 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 6:16 am to
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I'd love something in planning, scheduling, logistics, procurement, estimating, etc.




Drug gangs are always looking for a good stash house manager. Your skills in planning and scheduling would really help you shine as a strip club dj.

But all joking aside, you're looking at a career in real estate. Go ahead and get started on the zumba. Toned thighs and arse really make or break a realtor.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15302 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:25 am to
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Train conductor make good $
'

You mean like on KCS? Have to be a mason first.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
21070 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:37 am to
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suggestions on how to get in,


How’s your cover letter looking? Resume? People with experience in a career tend to bloviate about themselves thinking they can rhetorically get the interview.

Also - not sure if you read my response earlier - you say you’re going to have another kid soon. Have you thought about how different your schedule will be when you do get that entry level job? Assuming you’re tenured, you currently get a lot of time off and have the ability to be finished with work by ~3pm. You don’t have to coach. You can be a “3 o’clock and go home” teacher if you want. You get a ton of vacation. You have a defined pension plan. You’ve probably accumulated dozens of sick days.

With a new baby on the way, life is going to get hard at home for a few years. Two kids is way different than one kid. You’re talking about taking a pay cut to learn a new career with hours that most likely keep you away from home until 5pm. Most likely later because the entry level folks are going to put in more hours when going for promotions. Then there’s the possibility for traffic on a commute. What does your wife do? Is she taking a maternity leave? Does she get off work at 3pm? How much more time could your kids get with you or your wife if you’re not focused on building a new career? How hard will it be on your wife to take care of the baby, possibly work at the same time, and be there as support for you who gave up job security for a risk?

You want to switch careers but could you spend the next few years developing a hard skill? Maybe use it to generate side income? That’s something I’ve done - I make about $1500/month after taxes working some side jobs that I established in my time off from education. If you want more money, you certainly have the time to do it working as a teacher. Then when your baby is preschool age and less of a strain on your wife, you’ll have an established portfolio to send to potential employers.

I don’t know, man. You sound a lot like me. I quit teaching two weeks before my first kid was born. It’s really fricking hard and I have an amazingly supportive wife who felt really tired and drained during that time. Some may see my story as “sad” or a failure, but in the end, I’m content and financially stable. What more should a person seek in life?
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 7:39 am
Posted by D Tide
Member since Mar 2012
503 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:31 pm to
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I'd love something in planning, scheduling, logistics, procurement, estimating, etc

Stay in education, You said you were making upper 40's in education. True entry level in these field will be like 12-16 an hour. I know what jobs you think are entry level but a lot of times those jobs goes to the 12-16 an HR guys
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