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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:15 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:15 pm to lsupride87
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Get ready for only vaccinated allowed in Tiger Stadium and the Dome
Its coming, and its going to be a shite show
If we are lucky.
I am really hoping there is just a ceiling on how high it can go due to Vaccinations and natural immunities.
I expect what will happen is it will continue to rise, the government will bring back restrictions, and it will start falling not due to restrictions but because of aforementioned ceiling...but the government will claim credit, justifying future worthless restrictions.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:15 pm to WDE24
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All sounds like good counsel to me
Agreed. Good counsel that I have chosen to not follow until I know more.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:16 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I'm still waiting for you to tell me that Britain's good doctor Fauci equivalent didn't recently state that 60% of the Covid hospitalizations in the country are vaccinated individuals.
I have no idea what Fauci said because I don't give a shite about Fauci. I think he's an idiot.
If he said it, he was wrong. It was 40%, and it also shows you don't understand the data and why that isn't in any way a cause for concern.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:16 pm to ShoeBang
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Independent studies not funded by companies owned by pharmaceuticals is where I will look
my dude, the other main source of research funding is government
not trying to be a contrarian here and I appreciate your seemingly somewhat open mind
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:17 pm to Fun Bunch
Anything to sell these vaccines. Delta variant just came out and we already know the vaccine is “extremely effective with 2 doses.” Lol
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:18 pm to LegendInMyMind
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I'm still waiting for you to tell me that Britain's good doctor Fauci equivalent didn't recently state that 60% of the Covid hospitalizations in the country are vaccinated individuals.
He said it, then he corrected it.
I realize y'all probably don't believe the correction, so its kind of a mute point.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:18 pm to Pettifogger
quote:this places obsessives need to shite on trumps greatest achievement, and what should really be hailed as an all time presidential achievement, is so fascinating
"Come on, be serious, nobody is rooting against the vaccine."
*proceeds to frantically downvote any good news about the vaccine's effectiveness*
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:18 pm to SelaTiger
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Delta variant just came out
It has been in the UK for months, which is why this study is out of the UK.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:18 pm to ShoeBang
quote:All fine with me. I like to pass time by arguing against misinformation on here occasionally, but I’m not in favor of mandated vaccine, shut downs, etc.
Agreed. Good counsel that I have chosen to not follow until I know more.
I think for most people, failing to get the vaccine is a bad decision, but I want everyone to have the freedom to make bad decisions.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:18 pm to Fun Bunch
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If he said it, he was wrong. It was 40%, and it also shows you don't understand the data and why that isn't in any way a cause for concern.
Nah. The top science guy in Britain, the guy they've relied on from the start, said that. He said 60%, got chastised, then came out and said 40% (which is still a hell of a lot more than is being stated elsewhere).
My main point here is that none of them seem to know what the frick they're talking about.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:19 pm to Salmon
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mute point.
Is that a point we can't hear? Or is is it a moo point, like a cow's opinion?
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:19 pm to Fun Bunch
How did 23 people downvote this?
Crazy there are so many people are hoping the vaccines dont work in a pandemic. Talk about the dumbest of the dumb.
Crazy there are so many people are hoping the vaccines dont work in a pandemic. Talk about the dumbest of the dumb.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:19 pm to WestCoastAg
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this places obsessives need to shite on trumps greatest achievement, and what should really be hailed as an all time presidential achievement, is so fascinating
It is utterly amazing. If Trump had won (and hey, I voted for the guy twice I wish he had), then I truly wonder what the conversations on here would be.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:20 pm to LegendInMyMind
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The top science guy in Britain, the guy they've relied on from the start, said that. He said 60%
And then corrected it.
You realize that human beings are not infallible and say the wrong thing sometimes? Not everything is some conspiracy theory.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:20 pm to Salmon
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Y'all are now doing the same thing to that mRNA guy.
That guy has no power. Fauci has the power of an entire bureaucracy and damn near a global government behind him.
The MRNA guy is simply a single data point for me, I Don't think he's any kind of Savior or anything of the sort.
I don't necessarily have a camp. I have friends that have gotten the vaccines I have friends that haven't. Some have gotten the virus after the vaccine, some unvaccinated have never officially had the virus.
The only reason people feel so strongly about this is because of the weight that comes from coercion, media pressure and eventual government force.
People that haven't gotten the shot don't want to be forced to, and people that have gotten the shot don't seem to mind forcing people into it.
That's the dividing line, that's what we are arguing about.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:20 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:They dont have time for that. You likely only have another 5-7 days in rise in hospitalizations before the fall happens
I expect what will happen is it will continue to rise, the government will bring back restrictions, and it will start falling not due to restrictions but because of aforementioned ceiling...but the government will claim credit, justifying future worthless restrictions.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:21 pm to medtiger
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Why is chance of dying your determining factor in deciding whether or not to get vaccinated? Don't you value not having to miss 10 days of work or whatever else is important in your life? What about reducing the chances that if you do become exposed to this virus, that your illness will likely be less severe? I just don't understand the mindset.
You could have just typed “I’m a pussy” and saved yourself some time
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:21 pm to LegendInMyMind
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Is that a point we can't hear? Or is is it a moo point, like a cow's opinion?
I'm a dumb person. Yes.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:21 pm to Fun Bunch
People here have basically taken Kamala Harris’ stance from October 2020
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