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re: NE Journal of Medicine: Vaccines extremely effective vs. Delta with 2 doses, UK study

Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:06 pm to
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but misinformation is also a real issue here, and it is rampant on the OT and social media in general


Who decides what misinformation is?

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83579 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:06 pm to
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How much on THESE(mRNA)?



mRNA research has been going on since the 90s

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And how many comparative studies have they done of all the crunchy people that are completely unvaccinated vs people like me who have had all of them?

Oh yeah none. They refuse.


all of them? ever?
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19359 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:06 pm to
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like the FDA?


Yes, but at least they have to publish their info and I can look at it independently vs some manipulated result you see on the news. And I can ask doc friends who I know and trust their opinion on the validity of the data before making a decision. Beyond that there isn't much I can do but I'm not gonna sit back and trust anyone especially the government.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68628 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:07 pm to
Ehh England has like double the population of Florida and 4x the deaths.

So meting ain't right there.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278402 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:07 pm to
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I'm not sitting at home telling my wife all about the NE Journal of Medicine vaccination study


You showed her the goatee’d OT’er in the hospital bed from yesterday tho, right bunch
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37811 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:08 pm to
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I'm not gonna sit back and trust anyone especially the government


yet you trust that they
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have to publish their info
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95199 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:08 pm to
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"took my breath away." He says 93-94% of the cases are among the unvaccinated. #lalege #lagov
Get ready for only vaccinated allowed in Tiger Stadium and the Dome

Its coming, and its going to be a shite show
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54134 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:08 pm to
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I can look at it independently vs some manipulated result you see on the news. And I can ask doc friends who I know and trust their opinion on the validity of the data before making a decision.
Do you give more than one doctor friend advising against getting vaccinated? What kinds of medicine do they practice?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83579 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Who decides what misinformation is?


frick if I know these days

we all just believe whatever makes us feel the best about ourselves



Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32021 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:10 pm to
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95 percent of the new cases are people who were not vaccinated.
wrong
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19359 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:10 pm to
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yet you trust that they


No, but it's as close as you can get without being in the lab I guess.

Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:11 pm to
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the Right's Fauci


Does he have power?

Is fauci of the left?
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37811 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:12 pm to
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No, but it's as close as you can get without being in the lab I guess.


IJS, the impetus to report all of this stuff accurately is a product of government oversight that you seem to inherently distrust.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115840 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:12 pm to
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You showed her the goatee’d OT’er in the hospital bed from yesterday tho, right bunch



No
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19359 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:13 pm to
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Do you give more than one doctor friend advising against getting vaccinated? What kinds of medicine do they practice?


All of them have said it is my personal decision but they as doctors have taken it. I told them the same thing about waiting because I'm not in any real danger and their responses were basically "yeah I get why" while encouraging me to consider it more. Every one of them agreed it should not be compulsory for anyone but a choice.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112636 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:13 pm to
I think “doctor friends” is my favorite new meme on here
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83579 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:13 pm to
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Does he have power?


of course he has power

look how many people reference him

he has the power of authority

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Is fauci of the left?



I didn't say Fauci was of the left. But the Left absolutely has bestowed fame up on Fauci and he has absolutely relished in it.

Y'all are now doing the same thing to that mRNA guy.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54134 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:14 pm to
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All of them have said it is my personal decision but they as doctors have taken it. I told them the same thing about waiting because I'm not in any real danger and their responses were basically "yeah I get why" while encouraging me to consider it more. Every one of them agreed it should not be compulsory for anyone but a choice.

All sounds like good counsel to me
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
19359 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:14 pm to
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IJS, the impetus to report all of this stuff accurately is a product of government oversight that you seem to inherently distrust


Independent studies not funded by companies owned by pharmaceuticals is where I will look and compare when the info becomes available.

Don't have to worry about that for a while
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54093 posts
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:15 pm to
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Fun Bunch

I'm still waiting for you to tell me that Britain's good doctor Fauci equivalent didn't recently state that 60% of the Covid hospitalizations in the country are vaccinated individuals.
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