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re: Natural immunity is more potent than vaccination alone -Facebook going to ban the CDC now?
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:49 pm to Proximo
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:49 pm to Proximo
I tested positive for COVID in March 2020...was vaccinated in April 2021, tested positive January 6th 2022.
Neither natural immunity nor vaccination kept me from catching it again...so, there's that.
Neither natural immunity nor vaccination kept me from catching it again...so, there's that.
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:55 pm to Proximo
It’s almost like if we would have let the young and healthy go about living their lives and dedicate energy and efforts to protecting those most vulnerable we’d all be in a much better place right now.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:58 pm to Proximo
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Nevertheless, vaccination remains the safest strategy against COVID-19, according to the report published in U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report.
Never give up! That’s what makes our country great. **sarcasm**
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:00 pm to Proximo
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Natural immunity is more potent than vaccination alone -Facebook going to ban the CDC now?
Yea and that’s fine and all, but there is a vaccine that is also effective at reducing mortality with a side-bonus of not Potentially dying from Covid if you have shite-the-bed on the Covid disease severity lottery luck.
The point (2.0) of the vaccine is to reduce disease severity. Or you could not get vaccinated and take your chances.
This whole gotcha thing with anti-Vaxxers is weird and only hurts your side*.
Edit: * Because is makes your side come off as weird and fanatical.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:01 pm to Proximo
This shite really opened my eyes as to how many double digit IQ bug eating NPC pod people are out there.
You had mfers arguing against things (like natural immunity] that have been known for decades just because the media narrative changed that year.
You have asshats on this very forum arguing for a vaccine that doesnt even protect past 6 months.
You even had these absolute morons saying that if everyone got the vaccines, it would end. As if it didnt already make the jump to animals, as if the 3rd world could ever get 100% vaccinated.
Pure idiocy. Depressing really.
You had mfers arguing against things (like natural immunity] that have been known for decades just because the media narrative changed that year.
You have asshats on this very forum arguing for a vaccine that doesnt even protect past 6 months.
You even had these absolute morons saying that if everyone got the vaccines, it would end. As if it didnt already make the jump to animals, as if the 3rd world could ever get 100% vaccinated.
Pure idiocy. Depressing really.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:06 pm to USMCguy121
quote:And when the data comes out which proves they were wrong.
You had mfers arguing against things (like natural immunity] that have been known for decades just because the media narrative changed that year.
They don't admit they were wrong. They just take the new stance.
Now, they are parroting that it improves outcomes, just as the Fed Gov stops counting deaths.
The latest version is a cold, and they are still worried about cases and whether they've had it or not.
If you aren't old or don't have 100 comorbidities, it's not dangerous.
Nobody goes around telling people they had a cold.
Nobody cares.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:12 pm to Proximo
They admitted this very early on. Remember the plan was to "flatten the curve" not eliminate it. That tells you right there they knew everyone would eventually get the virus. Best case scenario was to buy scientists time for vaccines to protect those with the weakest immune systems.
We did that.
But the ones pulling the strings saw the money and power potential of stretching this out for the rest of our lives.
We did that.
But the ones pulling the strings saw the money and power potential of stretching this out for the rest of our lives.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:14 pm to Warfox
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The point (2.0) of the vaccine is to reduce disease severity. Or you could not get vaccinated and take your chances.
3% of the population might need to reduce the disease severity
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This whole gotcha thing with anti-Vaxxers is weird and only hurts your side*. Edit: * Because is makes your side come off as weird and fanatical.
What a fricking joke
of course you would claim anti-vaxxers are fanatical—it’s because this is all propaganda and you don’t even realize itPosted on 1/20/22 at 3:15 pm to dbeck
quote:Everyone that doesn't worship at the altar of big government can see it.
But the ones pulling the strings saw the money and power potential of stretching this out for the rest of our lives.
Anyone that thinks for themselves instead of getting talking points from Dems/MSM/Social media sees it.
Anyone who enjoys personal responsibility and freedom is beyond ready for this shitshow to stop.
Sadly, the Dems can't win without mail-in cheating in November, and they want power too much to ever let us live in peace.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:27 pm to sgallo3
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Even when they claimed vaccine+natural immunity was the best, that sounded awful.
If you read the article that's what they are saying. They are basically ranking it:
Vaccine + natural immunity
Natural immunity
Vaccine
Nothing
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:32 pm to Proximo
CDC needs to stop spreading misinformation
Posted on 1/20/22 at 3:46 pm to Epic Cajun
quote:For the specific Delta strain
If you read the article that's what they are saying. They are basically ranking it:
Vaccine + natural immunity
Natural immunity
Vaccine
Nothing
For Alpha the article data shows
Vaccine
Natural
Nothing
They didn’t have enough time at that point to do vaccine plus natural
Omicron is looking like:
I don’t give a frick you are all getting infected
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:17 pm to Proximo
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WAKE UP
Wake up? The majority of OT posters already agree with you and are “awake”.
#StayWoke
Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:37 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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Why not lessen the symptoms when you get it AND get the benefit of antibodies?
There's no proof of that, numbers say otherwise...
As well as about a 1/5000 chance of dropping dead from the shot
Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:47 pm to sgallo3
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Even when they claimed vaccine+natural immunity was the best, that sounded awful.
A belt and suspenders are best to hold your pants up; however, a belt alone is good enough to do it as well. The mandate is essentially requiring previously infected people to have belt and suspenders protection; HOWEVER, the mandate says that it’s acceptable to only have a belt protection if that belt was the vaccine (a belt from the dollar store is acceptable if you chose the J&J vaccine option).
Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:52 pm to madmaxvol
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I tested positive for COVID in March 2020...was vaccinated in April 2021, tested positive January 6th 2022. Neither natural immunity nor vaccination kept me from catching it again...so, there's that.
The only people that I know that have caught it twice were vaccinated after catching it the first time. You may have caught it the second time because you were vaccinated after you caught it the first time.
Not saying that’s true but it’s the data that I have.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 4:55 pm to Proximo
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because vaccines are not being mandated just on obese people
We need to mandate treadmills for obese people.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:23 pm to madmaxvol
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I tested positive for COVID in March 2020...was vaccinated in April 2021, tested positive January 6th 2022. Neither natural immunity nor vaccination kept me from catching it again...so, there's that.
Anecdotally, it seems natural immunity wanes after about a year. Then, you got your shots, which don’t seem to do much for Omicron. By the time you got it (Jan) I’m sure whatever was left of your natural immunity is spent.
I have yet to meet someone that had a solid case of covid in Feb 2021 or later, that has gotten Omicron.
I, for instance, had covid in March 2021, got the J&J blood clot jab in July 2021, and have yet to catch Omicron despite being exposed to it several times.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:26 pm to Proximo
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3% of the population might need to reduce the disease severity
Lol.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 5:26 pm to MiloDanglers
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Protection against Delta was highest, however, among people who were both vaccinated and had survived a previous COVID infection, and lowest among those who had never been infected or vaccinated, the study found.
Recapping the facts at hand here...
- Natural immunity - good if can obtain it without having a really bad experience or dying to get it
- Vaccine immunity - good, and better than nothing
- Natural + Vaccine immunity - best
The problem with misleading headlines and thread titles is that the dumb people throughout our country (and there are many) will read stuff like that and think "the best thing I can do is not get vaccinated and catch covid", which is 100% false.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 5:28 pm
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