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Natural immunity is more potent than vaccination alone -Facebook going to ban the CDC now?
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:16 pm
On Delta—
the CDC now admits prior infection / natural immunity is more effective than vaccination alone
CDC: natural immunity more potent than vaccination
On Omicron—
Pfizer’s CEO, just take him at his word:
Yet we still have the Biden admin and social media companies claiming we’re antivaxxers and need to be thrown in camps.
WAKE UP
the CDC now admits prior infection / natural immunity is more effective than vaccination alone
CDC: natural immunity more potent than vaccination
On Omicron—
Pfizer’s CEO, just take him at his word:
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Bourla talked about how omicron is more mild, but very infectious, posing a challenge for the vaccine. But the quote in the post leaves out important context about what he was discussing. He was referring to how well two doses of the vaccine protected specifically against infection by the omicron variant. “We know that the two doses of the vaccine offer very limited protection, if any,” he said. “The three doses, with the booster, they offer reasonable protection against hospitalization and deaths. Against deaths, I think very good, and less protection against infection.”
Yet we still have the Biden admin and social media companies claiming we’re antivaxxers and need to be thrown in camps.
WAKE UP
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:17 pm to Proximo
Fauci must have downvoted you
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:19 pm to Proximo
Everybody shouldve known this already. Them ever saying otherwise was stupid. Even when they claimed vaccine+natural immunity was the best, that sounded awful.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:21 pm to sgallo3
The issue has always been that for some people natural infection without some immunity from a vaccine could be extremely harmful. Close to half of Americans are obese and that is a major comorbidity that can cause issues if you’re building immunity through natural infection.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:22 pm to BluegrassBelle
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The issue has always been that for some people natural infection without some immunity from a vaccine could be extremely harmful.
You could not over emphasize the word some strong enough. Keep repeating that to yourself.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:23 pm to BluegrassBelle
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for some people natural infection without some immunity from a vaccine could be extremely harmful.
That’s wonderful justification for vaccine mandates and terminations of employment for unvaccinated persons in every single company with over 100 employees
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:24 pm to Proximo
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That’s wonderful justification for vaccine mandates and terminations of employment for unvaccinated persons in every single company with over 100 employees
And you’re making the leap that I’m for mandates because I simply pointed out why some would consider using a vaccine versus risking natural infection to build immunity.
Congrats on that defensive leap.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:26 pm to BluegrassBelle
I didn’t say you were for mandates. I said you provided the justification for it, which collapses on itself because vaccines are not being mandated just on obese people
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:26 pm to BluegrassBelle
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This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:37 pm to Proximo
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He was referring to how well two doses of the vaccine protected specifically against infection by the omicron variant. “We know that the two doses of the vaccine offer very limited protection, if any,” he said. “The three doses, with the booster, they offer reasonable protection against hospitalization and deaths. Against deaths, I think very good, and less protection against infection.”
How do they know two doses and a booster offers reasonable protection against hospitalization and death against omnicron? Seems like hospitalizations and especially death is way down for omnicron compared to prior variations, period.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:37 pm to Proximo
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WAKE UP
I've been awake since 5:00 this morning. No need to yell. Damn.
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Protection against Delta was highest, however, among people who were both vaccinated and had survived a previous COVID infection
I've had covid and I've had the vaccine (and now booster). Delta made its way through our office like a brush fire back in August. I was one of the 4 out of 17 who didn't get it. I'm still standing after Omicron recently came through our office with the same veracity and knocked out unvaxxed, vaxxed and previously-infected alike. The only other person who has had covid and the vaccine made it through both mass casualty events with me. Who knows?
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:38 pm to Proximo
We've known this since April of 2020.
2 years to flatten the curve!
2 years to flatten the curve!
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:39 pm to Proximo
This should be blasted across every news station, but it won't of course.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:39 pm to Proximo
Who fricking knew the human body was good at keeping itself alive!
amazing
amazing
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:40 pm to Proximo
But both is actually the best
If you’re going to argue getting it is great immunity, I won’t argue on that all.
But it seems pretty silly to me to willingly want to get it without the vaccine first. Why not lessen the symptoms when you get it AND get the benefit of antibodies? Seems like best of both worlds
If you’re going to argue getting it is great immunity, I won’t argue on that all.
But it seems pretty silly to me to willingly want to get it without the vaccine first. Why not lessen the symptoms when you get it AND get the benefit of antibodies? Seems like best of both worlds
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:46 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
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But both is actually the best
For a lot of people. The best isn't necessarily the same for everyone.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:47 pm to Proximo
But you’re still much more likely to die or be hospitalized if you’re unvaccinated. So there’s that.
Posted on 1/20/22 at 2:48 pm to Proximo
Chicken I've flagged this for dangerous disinformation
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