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re: Natchez Trace driver who hit and ran, lied & destroyed evidence WILL face federal charges

Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:43 am to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:43 am to
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The testimony of other witnesses of previous aggressive behavior does.



That could definitely speak to a pattern of negligence. I'm not sure about intent.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:44 am to
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It could prove intent though.


How does it prove intent?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86736 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:45 am to
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How does it prove intent?


if he has a history of driving around and fricking with cyclists

it could prove that his intent was to go and frick with cyclists

Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:45 am to
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That could definitely speak to a pattern of negligence.
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:45 am to
FRE 404(b)(2)

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Evidence of a crime, wrong, or other act is not admissible to prove a person’s character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character.


However,

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This evidence may be admissible for another purpose, such as proving motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, absence of mistake, or lack of accident
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 11:48 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39250 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:46 am to
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could prove that his intent was to go and frick with cyclists

Or he was driving down the road and an opportunity presented itself? Crime of opportunity and all that jazz.

Dudes a douche and will get the book thrown at him and rightfully so
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:46 am to
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it could prove that his intent was to go and frick with cyclists



Did he actually say that he was going to run over a cyclist in one of these confrontations?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86736 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:47 am to
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Did he actually say that he was going to run over a cyclist in one of these confrontations?


I don't think he meant to run over the cyclists honestly

I think he just meant to "buzz" the guy but got too close
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:48 am to
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Did he actually say that he was going to run over a cyclist in one of these confrontations?


quote:

This evidence may be admissible for another purpose, such as proving motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, absence of mistake, or lack of accident
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72197 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:48 am to
If you knew anything about this road, it's basically for bicyclists. I've read your posts early on in this thread, and it's full of fail and cringe. And I'm someone who despises bicyclists on the highway.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144681 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:48 am to
I watched the video. He barely touched the cycleist.

He deserves to have his DL suspended, anger management classes, community service, and a diverted sentence after one year of probation.

37 years is ridiculous.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:50 am to
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An idiot looking at his phone? Feels a bump and keeps going?




maybe a squirrel ran across the road and he decided to save the squirrel and hit the cyclist...can you really fault the guy in this scenario?
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94730 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:51 am to
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think he just meant to "buzz" the guy but got too close
which is what he's been doing on multiple Saturday mornings.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:51 am to
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Damn, father must be a real POS. Can't imagine turning my dad in for anything.


You wouldn't turn your dad in for running someone over and fleeing?
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
151593 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:51 am to
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He deserves to have his DL suspended, anger management classes, community service, and a diverted sentence after one year of probation.
which is much much more likely to happen.... sounds about fair


Punishment for wearing those gay knits should be eating concrete a couple times as well
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:52 am to
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If you knew anything about this road, it's basically for bicyclists.


a 2 lane road was built for cyclists? why not just make a bike path and not allow vehicles on it? also would make sense to set the speed limit around 20...i don't see many cyclists going 40
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19185 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:53 am to
No I wouldn't, would you?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144681 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:58 am to
How many times did CAD call a Volvo a deadly weapon?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:58 am to
Him being an aggressive driver in the past doesn't mean he intended to hit someone. That's why I wanted to know if he verbally threatened to run over someone.

It's going to be very difficult to prove that this goes beyond being a hit and run accident even if it wasn't.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94730 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:58 am to
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a 2 lane road was built for cyclists? why not just make a bike path and not allow vehicles on it?
your ignorance on this subject is astounding
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