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re: Natchez Trace driver who hit and ran, lied & destroyed evidence WILL face federal charges

Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:58 am to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39244 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:58 am to
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If you knew anything about this road, it's basically for bicyclists. I've read your posts early on in this thread, and it's full of fail and cringe. And I'm someone who despises bicyclists on the highway.


So saying riding g a 10 lb bike going 15-20mph feet away from half ton vehicles going. 40+mph isn't exactly safe, especially when the 15-20 mph is riding center lane is full of fail?

Just because it's legal doesn't mean it's the safest way to do things. If a vehicle is coming, move over. It's safer for everyone.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94728 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 11:59 am to
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How many times did CAD call a Volvo a deadly weapon?
how many Volvo trucks have run over people in Europe?

Would it have mattered to you if he jumped out of his car and bashed his head in with a hammer instead?
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:01 pm to
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your ignorance on this subject is astounding


Educate me please. I want to know why a road designed to accommodate vehicles is mainly for cyclists...maybe the signs should read cyclists yield to motorists since the roads designed for motorists say the opposite
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:02 pm to
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how many Volvo trucks have run over people in Europe?



So you think this is a terrorist attack?

quote:

Would it have mattered to you if he jumped out of his car and bashed his head in with a hammer instead?


Do you have any proof that this wasn't an accident?
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 12:03 pm
Posted by 12Pence
Member since Jan 2013
6344 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Him being an aggressive driver in the past doesn't mean he intended to hit someone


It doesn't have to mean that he intended to hit someone.

If it is true that this has happened on more than a few occasions in the past, the US Attorney can introduce testimony that Neely clipped them, tried to hit them, ran them off the road, etc. to simply show that this wasn't an accident, or this wasn't some mistake, or that he had some vindictive motive towards cyclists, etc.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94728 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:03 pm to
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So you think this is a terrorist attack?
do you have to be a terrorist to attack someone with a vehicle?

quote:

Do you have any proof that this wasn't an accident? 


Well there's this video see...
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
9426 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:04 pm to
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Yeah he is, the trace is a road known for bicycles to be all over it. If you have a problem with them, you should probably stay off that road. It's a road built for solely recreational purposes, it's there for people to enjoy the use of it.


It's a shame that cyclists cannot ride anywhere - even federal trails specifically designated for "recreation" - without being called douchebags.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:05 pm to
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Well there's this video see...



The video shows a hit and run. It doesn't show intent.

Sorry to disappoint you. I know you are passionate in your desire to see this guy serve almost 4 decades. The video does not show or prove anything but that a hit and run occurred.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144680 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:06 pm to
Of course that would have mattered.

The fact the dumbass on the bike is putting along in the center of a highway matters.

The guy driving the "deadly weapon" is all the way wrong, but doesn't deserve 37 years for that little tap.

Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:06 pm to
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to simply show that this wasn't an accident


the "accident" could be that he intended to only scare them...he very well could have only intended to scare but accidentally got to close
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:06 pm to
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Would it have mattered to you if he jumped out of his car and bashed his head in with a hammer instead?



Well that would actually not be an accident...so yeah, it would.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94728 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:07 pm to
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It's a shame that cyclists cannot ride anywhere - even federal trails specifically designated for "recreation" - without being called douchebags.
and you were downvoted for saying this. Lots of assholes on this board.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39244 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:07 pm to
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It's a shame that cyclists cannot ride anywhere - even federal trails specifically designated for "recreation" - without being called douchebags.


Hypothetical time.

Your driving down a winding road posted 45mph. All of a sudden you get behind a car going 15 mph forcing everyone to pass them one at a time when they can.

Is the driver of the car going 30mph under the speed limit a douchebag?
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
22399 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:07 pm to
It is designed for both. It just so happens it is a very popular cycling route. Cyclists need to be aware that there are some instances where they shouldn't ride two abreast. Vehicles need to be aware that they may have to yield to a cyclist prior to passing them.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94728 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:09 pm to
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Is the driver of the car going 30mph under the speed limit a douchebag?
you act this way behind mail trucks or mowing tractors?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
144680 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:09 pm to
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t's a shame that cyclists cannot ride anywhere - even federal trails


It's a Federal Hwy, not a trail.

But whatever you want to call it, the Trace is perfect for cycling.
Posted by shotcaller1
Member since Oct 2014
7501 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:10 pm to
Cyclists really are scum of the earth
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
39244 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:10 pm to
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you act this way behind mail trucks or mowing tractors?


Act what way? I go around all of them equally. I don't buzz them, I don't honk at them, I just keep going.

But now you're equating leisure riding to someone doing their job.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
94728 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:11 pm to
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Your driving down a winding road posted 45mph. All of a sudden you get behind a car going 15 mph forcing everyone to pass them one at a time when they can.
I have logged 10s of thousands of miles on this same road on my bike over the last 20 years and there is almost never any traffic. Ever. Takes 5 seconds to safely pass a cyclist and maybe 10 on the very slight chance a car is coming from the other direction.

Act like you've been there.
This post was edited on 7/31/17 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 7/31/17 at 12:11 pm to
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It's a shame that cyclists cannot ride anywhere even federal trails specifically designated for "recreation"


quote:

Recreational vehicles are a popular way to see the parkway. The length restriction for RVs is 55 feet, including a tow vehicle, and the height restriction is 14 feet. The parkway can accommodate an RV weighing up to 40,000 pounds.

Be on the lookout for cyclists! The Natchez Trace Parkway is a designated bicycling route. With a lane width of 11 feet and little to no shoulder, it is important to slow down, pass with care, and avoid distracted driving when bicyclists are present.


i see 40,000 pound RV's are allowed and I also think some cyclists have confused the words designed and designated to mean the same thing
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