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re: NASA unhappy with SpaceX's progress, will open moon lander contract to other companies
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:24 pm to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:24 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Artemis is a waste of money political gift to all involved. If NASA were serious they would scrap the whole thing and ask SpaceX to move faster with more $$$.
The SLS rocket was sold to Congress as a way to use Shuttle engines and designs to save money and time, which has unsurprisingly not happened. But it's the only reliable way currently to get astronauts to the moon before 2030.
Trump's plan is to scrap SLS launches after astronauts land on the moon so it will be useful then be no more because it's way too expensive.
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:26 pm to Diseasefreeforall
It sure would be a spectacle without Spacex. Supporting Ukraine while paying Puting to get us to space.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:32 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Why don’t we just copy/paste the plans that got us the the moon 60 years ago? Oh, that’s right. It was faked.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:35 pm to Diseasefreeforall
quote:Always reminds me of saccharine late ‘70s pop music.
Starship
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:49 pm to DeltaDoc
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Why don’t we just copy/paste the plans that got us the the moon 60 years ago?
not sure if serious but just getting there isnt the mission. Artemis plans for a permanent human base to be established that will among other goals, serve a launch point for a manned mission to Mars. Thats the whole point of Starship......its basically an 18 wheeler for space.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:07 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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“The president and I want to get to the moon in this president’s term
Why?
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:14 pm to Diseasefreeforall
I'm not sure if this is some kind of Elon-failure rah rah thread but I will say this. There's no way anyone else will catch SpaceX. Blue Origin is staunchly behind them in research or development. I have no problem with them opening the door to other companies but there's nobody remotely close to SpaceX in any way, shape or form.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:36 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Just curious but could the FAA under Biden be a bit to blame for falling behind too? Didn't they consistently delay test early, crucial test flights while they took forever with their "investigations"?
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:45 pm to CAD703X
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like boeing?
Boeing be like sign here, here and here before the launch.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:50 pm to RebelRye
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Just curious but could the FAA under Biden be a bit to blame for falling behind too? Didn't they consistently delay test early, crucial test flights while they took forever with their "investigations"?
Yes
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:51 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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NASA unhappy with SpaceX's progress, will open moon lander contract to other companies
The same NASA that had to first beg Russia for rides to the International Space Station, then rely on SpaceX to carry astronauts in the dragon capsule, and when they sent their own it failed spectacularly and SpaceX had to bring those astronauts home?
That NASA?
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:52 pm to BillysIsland
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Rocket Lab
I think they’ll also throw money at Firefly.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:15 pm to Diseasefreeforall
“I’d like to run this idea by the Muslims before we do anything rash.” - Baraaq Hussein Obama
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:18 pm to CleverUserName
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The same NASA that had to first beg Russia for rides to the International Space Station, then rely on SpaceX to carry astronauts in the dragon capsule, and when they sent their own it failed spectacularly and SpaceX had to bring those astronauts home?
That NASA?
Is this some sort of gotcha....NASA works within the budget it is allotted by Congress. Working with Russia was cost effective at the time. Boeings Starliner craft failed.......space travel aint easy and Space X picked up the slack. Acting like that was some sort of massive failure on NASA's part is ignorant.
As far as Starship and the HLS......Would you rather they keep pumping tax payer money into a project that isnt producing promised results?
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:26 pm to CleverUserName
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The same NASA that had to first beg Russia for rides to the International Space Station, then rely on SpaceX to carry astronauts in the dragon capsule, and when they sent their own it failed spectacularly and SpaceX had to bring those astronauts home?
Boeing’s Starliner capsule isn’t any more “NASA’s own” than Crew Dragon. Both were developed under the same NASA program.
SpaceX obviously did a much better job than Boeing, but it’s silly to act like NASA owns Starliner’s failure while SpaceX owns Crew Dragon’s success.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:32 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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But it's the only reliable way currently to get astronauts to the moon before 2030.
You really think it's going to take spacex 5 more years to get starship working?
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:33 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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A big problem with the Starship program is that they're trying to do everything with one rocket...land on the moon, go to Mars, transport giant cargo quickly across the earth. How well it does any one thing is yet to be determined.
Ironically, basically that same argument got Shuttle canceled.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:34 pm to lostinbr
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but it’s silly to act like NASA owns Starliner’s failure while SpaceX owns Crew Dragon’s success.
It is NASA's failure when they keep throwing dollars at a program that utterly failed. I am sure it's just a coincidence Boeing also happens to be neck deep in the defense world...
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:46 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Boeing
Worst prime ever, and it's not close.
They call the shots; gov procurement rubber stamps it, everyone's off on Friday and never any OT.
Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:57 pm to Diseasefreeforall
In keeping up with that Starship thing, I don't see how they are going to get it reusable any time soon. It scorches every time it reenters and something burns off or holes burn through it. On the edges of the fin things edges burn off. And Musk wants that to go to Mars.
And, how is that thing going to land on the moon, kicking up all those rocks and not screw up the engines?
And, how is that thing going to land on the moon, kicking up all those rocks and not screw up the engines?
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