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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:39 am
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:39 am
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:40 am to lnomm34
So, they save money, but our costs go up. Yay! Government protected monopolies are awesome!
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:50 am to lnomm34
The kicker. I have had one of these meters for the last eight years because they can't access my property due to the wall and gate.
But now that the unwashed masses are getting them, I have to pay more. Which is a bunch of BS.
But now that the unwashed masses are getting them, I have to pay more. Which is a bunch of BS.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 9:51 am to lnomm34
Nothing short of predatory. They save 50k per year in salary and benefits per employee not needed and proceed to charge their customers for 15 years for a one time infrastructure upgrade.
I would not have a problem with it if there was competition in the market, but government allowed monopolies make it not ok.
Entergy claims they have 2.9 million customers. At $2.22 per month per customer, that is 1.15 BILLION over the next 15 years in increased revenue for nothing. Plus the reduction in employee headcount pushes that even higher. $77 million per year, plus salary and benefits reduction, not to mention their insurance premiums probably go down as well since they don't have to carry the liability insurance for their drivers who are on the road and have access to people's private property.
frick this company.
I would not have a problem with it if there was competition in the market, but government allowed monopolies make it not ok.
Entergy claims they have 2.9 million customers. At $2.22 per month per customer, that is 1.15 BILLION over the next 15 years in increased revenue for nothing. Plus the reduction in employee headcount pushes that even higher. $77 million per year, plus salary and benefits reduction, not to mention their insurance premiums probably go down as well since they don't have to carry the liability insurance for their drivers who are on the road and have access to people's private property.
frick this company.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 9:56 am
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:00 am to kingbob
What's the solution to them? The infrastructure is kind of restrictive.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:02 am to ShoeBang
Smash them, like luddites, then blame it on the digruntled Workers.
Or hack the meters
Or hack the meters
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:03 am to lnomm34
I'm surprised its taking this Long for Entergy.
Houston started this around 10 years ago and basically all houses have them now.
They are quite nice as you can get daily emails of your usage and get further detail on a graph showing when AC kicked on etc..
With energy dregulation in TX, this smart meter allows everyone to change providers to shop around for the cheapest rates. Before we were able to get in the cycle of finding a new provider and plan when rates are cheapest in February, we signed up with serveral 3 month plans with different providers. smooth transition each and every time. Smart meters have been really nice.
After meters were first installed there was a truck that can drive around and data is fed to his computer. now its sent directly to a main station even eliminating the driver part.
Houston started this around 10 years ago and basically all houses have them now.
They are quite nice as you can get daily emails of your usage and get further detail on a graph showing when AC kicked on etc..
With energy dregulation in TX, this smart meter allows everyone to change providers to shop around for the cheapest rates. Before we were able to get in the cycle of finding a new provider and plan when rates are cheapest in February, we signed up with serveral 3 month plans with different providers. smooth transition each and every time. Smart meters have been really nice.
After meters were first installed there was a truck that can drive around and data is fed to his computer. now its sent directly to a main station even eliminating the driver part.
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:08 am to lnomm34
It's simply microgrid tech combined with more advanced SCADA. During the installation and expansion they're still having to pay the work force. So yeah, rates would increase to not affect margins. Pretty straight forward.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:10 am to fr33manator
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hack the meters
Yeah just make your bill fluctuate 8-12% every month while only paying $65-80 where you would normally pay double. If you use enough variables in a randomized fashion, it could actually go undetected for a long time if they aren't running some sort of diagnostics or upgrading the firmware on the meters.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:11 am to fr33manator
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Or hack the meters
No one is hacking shite especially not an idiot like you.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:11 am to ell_13
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:12 am to lnomm34
quote:Would you rather pay for it all now which would triple your bill?
The expansion and upgrade is supposed to be complete in a year and a half. And the fees will continue for another thirteen and a half years after that.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:13 am to ell_13
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rates would increase to not affect margins. Pretty straight forward.
So every business that makes cost cutting upgrades should not use their own liquid capital or credit to invest in operations? They should just increase prices and make the customer fit the bill? That's a shite practice that only exists because the customers literally have zero choice in their electricity provider, you realize that right? Holding customers hostage with a blessing from the government doesn't make you the least bit uneasy?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:13 am to ell_13
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:15 am to Mudminnow
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this smart meter allows everyone to change providers to shop around for the cheapest rates.
Ahhhhh one can dream.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:15 am to ell_13
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No one is hacking shite especially not an idiot like you.
People use magnets all the time.
And not saying i’m Skilled enough in computronics to pull it off myself but...how am I an idiot?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:15 am to lnomm34
St. John Parish installed similar tech to make the water meters easier to read... their system sucks in a major way.
Fox 8 New Orleans article on issues
Fox 8 New Orleans article on issues
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:17 am to ShoeBang
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So every business that makes cost cutting upgrades should not use their own liquid capital or credit to invest in operations? They should just increase prices and make the customer fit the bill?
It happens all the time. When your bill doesn't increase in a few years because this technology was implemented you'll see the cost savings
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:18 am to lnomm34
Here's what Houston sent out 10 yrs ago for smart meters and their benefit. So nice not to be dealing with Entergy anymore and paying for each hurricane for 10 years with fees and other additional fees.
Smart meters benefit customers by helping to:
?Save Houstonians $20-25 million each year in eliminated connection and other fees
Give consumers access to more frequent and detailed electric usage information
Provide customers with free automated outage notifications?
All Consumer Benefits
Smart Meters help the environment by:
Empowering customers with data to make energy-saving choices
Saving 1.7 million gallons of fuel by enabling remote electricity services
Making it possible for retail electric providers to offer “time-of-use” rate structures, pre-paid service and other products and services.
Smart meters benefit customers by helping to:
?Save Houstonians $20-25 million each year in eliminated connection and other fees
Give consumers access to more frequent and detailed electric usage information
Provide customers with free automated outage notifications?
All Consumer Benefits
Smart Meters help the environment by:
Empowering customers with data to make energy-saving choices
Saving 1.7 million gallons of fuel by enabling remote electricity services
Making it possible for retail electric providers to offer “time-of-use” rate structures, pre-paid service and other products and services.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 10:18 am to ShoeBang
quote:Every business certainly doesn't do that. You think they do?
So every business that makes cost cutting upgrades should not use their own liquid capital or credit to invest in operations?
quote:That's typically how it works in a competitive market. Except with LA's regulated market, it has to be approved by the LPSC.
They should just increase prices and make the customer fit the bill?
quote:Again, can't be done without approval.
That's a shite practice that only exists because the customers literally have zero choice in their electricity provider, you realize that right?
quote:Entergy is a powerful organization in Louisiana and especially in Louisiana politics, no doubt. But this isn't necessarily one of those examples of that.
Holding customers hostage with a blessing from the government doesn't make you the least bit uneasy?
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