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Posted on 9/3/26 at 4:51 am to mule74
Awesome stuff
Thank you for sharing it with us OP.
Thank you for sharing it with us OP.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:00 am to mule74
Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:07 am to mule74
Very cool. Thanks for sharing.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:32 am to WWII Collector
This is true. My grandfather refused to speak of his time in the war. He was a Navy corpsmen in the Pacific. (Guam and Iwo Jima) I cannot begin to imagine the things that he saw.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:58 am to mule74
Nice piece of memorabilia. That shadow box is a good idea. We did that with my Dad's medals.
He was a nose gunner on a B24 with the 15th AF in Italy
Like others have said he very seldom talked about the war. As we got older he would answer some general questions but he never initiated the conversation. If we asked something specific about combat his stock answer was, "that was so long ago I just don't remember".
He was a nose gunner on a B24 with the 15th AF in Italy
Like others have said he very seldom talked about the war. As we got older he would answer some general questions but he never initiated the conversation. If we asked something specific about combat his stock answer was, "that was so long ago I just don't remember".
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 5:59 am
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:42 am to mule74
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fire a machine gun out of a glass ball attached to a metal tube.
You come from good stock.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:48 am to mule74
Very cool.
Millennials and younger have no idea how violent the world can be. Then they bitch about home prices.
Millennials and younger have no idea how violent the world can be. Then they bitch about home prices.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:04 am to mule74
In case anyone wonders what the survival rate of each position of a B-17
8th Air Force in England B-17 casualties, 1,117 battle casualties were recorded, 110 Killed and 1,007 wounded by enemy fire.
Pilot: 7.3% (8) Killed / 7.4% (75) Wounded
Co-Pilot: 5.5% (6) Killed / 6.8% (68) Wounded
Bombardier: 16.3% (18) Killed / 17.7% (178) Wounded
Navigator: 11.8% (13) Killed / 12.2% (123) Wounde
Top Turret / Engineer: 9.1% (10) Killed / 8.3% (84) Wounded
Radio Operator: 7.3% (8) Killed / 8.6% (87) Wounded
Ball Turret: 6.4% (7) Killed / 5.9% (59) Wounded
Waist Gunner x2: 19% (21) Killed / 21.1%
Tail Gunner: 17.3% (19) Killed / 12% (121) Wounded
Masters of the air
8th Air Force in England B-17 casualties, 1,117 battle casualties were recorded, 110 Killed and 1,007 wounded by enemy fire.
Pilot: 7.3% (8) Killed / 7.4% (75) Wounded
Co-Pilot: 5.5% (6) Killed / 6.8% (68) Wounded
Bombardier: 16.3% (18) Killed / 17.7% (178) Wounded
Navigator: 11.8% (13) Killed / 12.2% (123) Wounde
Top Turret / Engineer: 9.1% (10) Killed / 8.3% (84) Wounded
Radio Operator: 7.3% (8) Killed / 8.6% (87) Wounded
Ball Turret: 6.4% (7) Killed / 5.9% (59) Wounded
Waist Gunner x2: 19% (21) Killed / 21.1%
Tail Gunner: 17.3% (19) Killed / 12% (121) Wounded
Masters of the air
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:09 am to mule74
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:09 am to WWII Collector
quote:
Left - Air medal ribbon with two oak leaf clusters. Means he won the air medal three times. Air Medal - Heroic or meritorious achievement while participating in aerial flight...
One would be significant, three is quite an achievement. Your grandfather was a badass.
The stories he could tell but couldn’t bring himself to speak about.
Priceless family heirlooms that tell a silent story we can only imagine.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:32 am to mule74
quote:Your grandfather had a set of balls.
Left Mississippi State after his freshman year to go to Europe and fire a machine gun out of a glass ball attached to a metal tube.
I am grateful for his service.
ETA:
quote:Fair review of WWII
Just said he hated English food.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 8:33 am
Posted on 9/3/26 at 8:59 am to mule74
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tailgunner on B17 bombers
Tailgunners were 12 percent of the air crews and 40 percent of the casualties.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 11:39 am to mule74
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Just said he hated English food.
That shite’ll make your teeth fall out.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 12:07 pm to OlGrandad
Posted on 9/3/26 at 12:24 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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Millennials and younger have no idea how violent the world can be. Then they bitch about home prices.
you say this like you were on guadalcanal
Posted on 9/3/26 at 1:42 pm to mule74
Well your grandfather was a badass
Posted on 9/3/26 at 1:51 pm to mule74
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European Theater (ETO): Because airspace over Europe was heavily defended and contested by the enemy, the Eighth, Ninth, Twelfth, and Fifteenth Air Forces adapted the rules. Bomber, reconnaissance, and observation crewmembers typically earned the medal after 5 combat sorties (missions), while fighter pilots earned it after 10 sorties, or one award per enemy aircraft shot down. Subsequent awards were denoted by bronze oak leaf clusters
Well done to your grandfather.
Air medal criteria
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 9/3/26 at 1:52 pm to mule74
thats cool. thanks for sharing.
Posted on 9/3/26 at 1:56 pm to WWII Collector
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Left - Air medal ribbon with two oak leaf clusters. Means he won the air medal three times.
Air Medal - Heroic or meritorious achievement while participating in aerial flight...
Center - American Campaign Ribbon. -
The American Campaign Ribbon is a United States military award given to service members who performed duty in the American Theater of Operations during World War II between December 7, 1941, and March 2, 1946.
Right - The European-African-Middle East Ribbon with two Bronze stars.
EAM Campaign Ribbon recognizes U.S. military personnel who served in the European, African, or Middle Eastern Theater during World War II.
If you're interested, you could submit a request to the National Archives for a records review. I know for sure he's missing a WW2 Victory Medal and probably an Army Good Conduct Medal. If he was injured while flying a mission he could very well be entitled to a Purple Heart as well.
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