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re: My elderly mom has the COVIDs - what's the best way to get monoclonal antibodies?

Posted on 12/23/21 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/23/21 at 2:35 pm to
You sure as hell can’t give it in Paitent
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4321 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 2:35 pm to
I genuinely hope your mom recovers with no issues.

But you heavily criticized me for not taking a toddler to get monoclonal antibodies and for suggesting everyone who tests positive shouldn’t rush out for treatment.

You’re welcome for not unnecessarily clogging the lane to treatment for people who might really need it.
Posted by BabysArmHoldingApple
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2016
868 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 2:36 pm to
No BS....I am currently waiting in the Rayne Civic Center to get a free infusion from La Dept of Health.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 2:37 pm to
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If she tested positive, I would think all she would need is a doctor's referral.


Around here it seems to depend on who the Dr works for. People seem to have better luck getting what they want with small solo practices, or Drs n a privately owned group, they do whatever they want. The docs that work for hospital owned physicians groups seem to have their hands tied as to what treatments they can offer, and under what conditions.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1390 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 2:37 pm to
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you have to be able to afford it out of pocket


Antibody treatment is free, the federal government is providing all the medicine to the providers directly and the patient does not pay for the medicine itself. Providers may bill your insurer for a facility charge if they have a negotiated rate, but the patient pays nothing for the treatment.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31289 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 2:40 pm to
So we don't trust the FDA-approved vaccines, but we trust the FDA-approved monoclonal antibody treatments? Just trying to keep up over here.

And someone let me know if we trust the FDA-approved antiviral treatments. TIA.
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Cosmo
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Member since Oct 2003
120389 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 2:42 pm to
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From the sounds of it, a lot of doctors won't give it to outpatients


Wut
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36741 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 3:04 pm to
MAB from my understanding and reading has been around since the 80s. Ant say the same for the shots or newly “approved” treatments.
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
1521 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 3:06 pm to
Does insurance cover that stuff yet, or is it still $1200 a pop, private pay?
Posted by Geaux-2-L-O-Miss
Between Your Ears
Member since Aug 2005
3425 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 3:15 pm to
My mom got tested at the Hospital it was positive and they scheduled her to come back the next day for the infusion.
Posted by dred24
In the south
Member since Nov 2006
1216 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 3:18 pm to
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Currently available monoclonal antibody treatments unlikely to be effective against Omicron Circulating SARS-CoV-2 viral variants, including Omicron, are likely to be associated with resistance to widely available monoclonal antibody treatments, including bamlanivimab and etesevimab administered together or REGEN-COV based on in vitro data. However, sotrovimab appears to retain activity against the Omicron variant based on the same data but supplies are currently limited. Therefore, any further allocations of bamlanivimab and etesevimab together, etesevimab alone, and REGEN-COV are paused pending updated data from the CDC. Nationwide shipments of sotrovimab have resumed, and delivery of 55,000 doses of product has begun. An additional 300,000 doses of sotrovimab will be available for distribution in January, including shipments to Alabama.


That was in an email from the Medical Association of AL.
We shut down our infusions at UAB until we get the right one. This was based off the amount of Omicron we have here.
Posted by Dave_O
Member since Apr 2018
1135 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 3:25 pm to
I actually just came off of the IV about 10 minutes ago. Sitting in observation now. In MS, all you have to do is present a positive covid test and go to one of the clinics that provides them. I just called the number that was on the MS Dept of Health website and they got me headed in the right direction.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 12/23/21 at 3:59 pm to
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a lot of doctors won't give it to outpatients


Monoclonal treatment is solely outpatient. Once admitted no way to get it based my elderly fathers recent experience. The hospital told him they had “better stuff”.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22177 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 4:17 pm to
Got them today at an urgent care. (4) shots @ 10:40am felling better already..

This is in Gretna on wall Blvd, 504-754-8111 if no answer leave a message they will call you back…. Good luck
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 4:21 pm
Posted by SuwMwf
Member since Jul 2012
948 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 4:27 pm to
We went to Lourdes ER in Scott, LA. Positive Sunday am. Infused by sunday PM.
My husband is overweight by definition and 40 and I have no health conditions and slim. Took 2 hours total from arrival. Just walked in an said we were there for mcab.
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31289 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 4:34 pm to
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MAB from my understanding and reading has been around since the 80s. Ant say the same for the shots or newly “approved” treatments.



So if you're only going by "how long has it been around/in development" to determine what is a good pharmaceutical, you'd still lose. mRNA vaccines have been around since the 60s. But beyond that neither was adapted for covid, because obviously covid didn't exist until recently.

But I prefer to go by actual efficacy and data in placebo-controlled clinical trials and the reviews of the FDA.

It's just funny to me how the logic of a lot of people on this board is so inconsistent. With the vaccines it's "the FDA is corrupt, follow the money", but with MAB and antivirals, since they like those it's gonna be "they're great, and are super easy to get/take". Pharma companies developed all of them, ran all the trials, and the same FDA reviewed and approved all of them.
This post was edited on 12/23/21 at 4:40 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 4:39 pm to
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That was in an email from the Medical Association of AL. We shut down our infusions at UAB until we get the right one. This was based off the amount of Omicron we have here.


What I’ve been trying to tell y’all is that there has been a coordinated message among most of the hospitals in the south as of today that they are going to stop the antibodies.

Why?

All these hospitals found out the same day it isn’t working?

And who is dying? Because that’s the definition of not working. How can you say it’s not working if people aren’t dying?
Posted by jdaute2
lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2012
1782 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 4:41 pm to
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From the sounds of it, a lot of doctors won't give it to outpatients


Umm. You have to be an outpatient to get it.
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 4:42 pm to
What’s your location?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31289 posts
Posted on 12/23/21 at 4:42 pm to
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And who is dying? Because that’s the definition of not working. How can you say it’s not working if people aren’t dying?


Because they can do tests to measure response of a particular therapy. It's not hard.

But I guess a question for you...what, exactly, are you suggesting? That the deep state has infiltrated all the hospitals there to put the kibosh on an effective treatment so that more people will die and therefore that will lead to more people getting vaccinated?

I laugh, but with some of you that absurdity would be delivered with a straight face.
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