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Murderers in the US now stand a 50% chance of getting away with it

Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:10 am
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:10 am
71% of homicides were solved in 1980. Now it's only 50%.

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US murderers stand a 50% chance of getting away with it, new report finds

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Unprecedented increases in US homicides are being met with the lowest-ever clearance rate — leaving at least half of the killings unsolved, according to alarming data and experts.

Analyses of FBI data show that 71% of homicides were deemed solved in 1980 — dropping to an all-time low of only about 50% in 2020, the last time the data were compiled.

“We’re on the verge of being the first developed nation where the majority of homicides go uncleared,” Thomas Hargrove, founder of the Murder Accountability Project, told the Guardian.

A graph by the group shows that the clearance rate was even higher before 1980, seemingly marked as high as 90% in 1965.

A separate graphic shows a sudden spike in homicides in 2020 — with the number marked as solved barely increasing from preceding years.


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Some experts, however, caution that the data do not take into account key factors that have also changed over the decades — suggesting that the lower clearance rate could in fact be a sign of progress.

“It also could be that the standards for making an arrest have gone up and some of the tricks they were using in 1965 are no longer available,” said Philip Cook, a public policy researcher at the University of Chicago Urban Labs who has been studying clearance rates since the 1970s.

He noted to the Marshall Project that outrageous cases where convicts are cleared because of “shoddy” evidence were at the time listed as a “successful” homicide clearance.




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Critics note previous reports that suggest the issue is particularly stark in low-income black and Latino neighborhoods.

“People don’t need to see the data to know that the police are not doing their job,” Tinisch Hollins, executive director of a California justice reform group, told the Guardian.

“My perception is that police are failing to do their job.”

Others, however, suggest that the recent backlash against cops amid protests against police killings have also harmed investigations, both through defunded forces and witnesses unwilling to help.

“You hear every cop saying, ‘We can’t do better because they don’t cooperate,’” retired homicide detective John Skaggs, who now trains officers across the US, told the Guardian.

Peter Moskos, a professor at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, previously told the Marshall Project that it was a vicious cycle.


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The spike in cases has also overwhelmed many homicide squads.

“For us, it’s the volume,” veteran Philadelphia homicide detective Joe Murray previously told CBS News.

Murder Accountability chairman Thomas Hargrove, however, has blamed “a failure of political will by local leaders.”

“The Murder Accountability Project firmly believes declining homicide clearance rates are the result of inadequate allocation of resources — detectives, forensic technicians, crime laboratory capacity, and adequate training of personnel,” he said.
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Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
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Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:13 am to
Defund the po-leese
Posted by saint tiger225
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Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
22287 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:13 am to
Over 90% solved rate in 1965. But I thought it was the Wild West back then before the Dems took control of all metro areas?
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
5947 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:14 am to
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“For us, it’s the volume,”


This is a scary thought.

Its pretty simple. A certain group of people don't value human life anymore, so murder is easy cause no one cares and/or willing to snitch.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17163 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:14 am to
This is a fricking joke.

We need to seriously re-think how our DA's are put into office, and how violent crime is handled in the US.
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
5569 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:15 am to
you would think the advancements in video surveillance and forensic science would have decreased the number of unsolved murders, but no one seems to want to crack down on the violent gangs responsible for most murders in America.
Posted by Toptigerfan86
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2022
2833 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:17 am to
Is there where someone comes along and blames systemic racism or some shite for behaving like animals ?
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11034 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:18 am to
There is no doubt that the lower clearance rates now are because of more murders, less cooperation with police, and less police. But I would like to know how many of those 71% solved murders from the 70s and 80s were actually solved in recent years using today's technology. Or maybe they did in fact credit that solved murder as part of the 50%.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
24335 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:18 am to
And this is with an increase in surveillance and people basically filming everything they see.
Posted by TomJoadGhost
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
1003 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:19 am to
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71% of homicides were solved in 1980.



It’s probably a small number, but I wonder how many of those were wrongful convictions.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281857 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:20 am to
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but no one seems to want to crack down on the violent gangs responsible for most murders in America.


they're mainly killing each other. Black community don't seem to care much, so I am not going to lose sleep over it.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86611 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:22 am to
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We need to seriously re-think how our DA's are put into office, and how violent crime is handled in the US.


DA's need to be held accountable. Just like judges who put zero bond on murderers or other violent people.

I'm friends with a very left leaning Dem judge and he brings two guns to work every day. I found that ironic.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101717 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:22 am to
Municipalities are trying to fix this. You only now count as murdered if the DA says you do. Otherwise, they just report it as “dying suddenly.”
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
56786 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:23 am to
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It’s probably a small number, but I wonder how many of those were wrongful convictions.

I bet they convicted a lot of guys for shooting their wife and Jody

That shouldn’t be a crime imo
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
10858 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:23 am to
How many of the I10 shootings in New Orleans have been solved? Any?
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
39578 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:24 am to
I thought solve rates would have gone up with increased technology.

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“For us, it’s the volume,


Oh, that is terrifying
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
20804 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:25 am to
Br is much higher especially if you kill a white person
Posted by shspanthers
Nashville, TN
Member since Sep 2007
830 posts
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:29 am to
I have a feeling that stat is heavily skewed depending on where you live and your race. Chicago gang murders? Probably not getting much traction on those. Dentist murders his wife in affluent white suburb? 99% chance it's solved.
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