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Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:13 pm to LSUBoo
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Provo, Utah
Utah is pretty nice for those who are worried about Montana winters.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:17 pm to fastlane
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Bozeman. It is really expensive if you are trying to get something like south la. But they are building so much affordable housing so fast the market can't keep up. There is so much land here that they can build out and dont have to build on top of each other.
And pretty soon Montana will look like the Colorado Front Range. The paradox is people flee to places like Montana, and their very presence ends up destroying what they came there for.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:21 pm to fastlane
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Moved to Montana from New Orleans
Tell me you're white without actually telling me you're white
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:31 pm to fallguy_1978
218 homicides for New Orleans in 2021. Hell, BR wasn't that far off with nearly 100K less people 
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:33 pm to fallguy_1978
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all of the nice places in the country are unaffordable for the middle class.
When you say all the nice places are you really referring to just a handful of western states?
Define middle class? Married couple with no kids making 150k per year is a great living. Once you have families with 2-3 kids are you thinking middle class is more than 250k per year?
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:42 pm to Paul Allen
When I think middle class I think something like a married couple that's a cop and a teacher with 2 kids. It seems like there are a lot of markets where owning a home would be pretty challenging for that couple now. Yet every area needs those people.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:45 pm to captainahab
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Well crap. I googled "New Orleans Shootings 2021" and that WDSU story came up. Just went back and saw it was written in April 2021.
My bad....
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captainahab
Just an assumption on my part here, but this lack of attention to detail on your part could be why you continued to fail at catching that big whale.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:46 pm to fallguy_1978
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a married couple that's a cop and a teacher
Oh great, so one can indoctrinate our kids and the other can shoot them? No thanks.
(I kid, I kid.)
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:48 pm to fallguy_1978
Just a broad brush when you said nice areas. I’m thinking like resort towns, beach towns, mountain towns. These have always been very expensive to be in. Nothing new.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:48 pm to fallguy_1978
Yea I think middle class nearly perfectly defines my parents: firefighter and nurse living in the suburbs with 2 kids. I showed them home prices in their current neighborhood (in Tomball/Magnolia area) and they were floored how anyone starting a family could stomach prices like that these days
And it ends up being reflected in the uptick in rentals popping up everywhere
And it ends up being reflected in the uptick in rentals popping up everywhere
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:49 pm to LSUBoo
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Cedar Park, Texas
Midland, Texas
Ogden, Utah
Raleigh, North Carolina
Provo, Utah
Des Moines, Iowa
Austin, Texas
Minneapolis, Minnesota
St. Paul, Minnesota
Winchester, Virginia
Provo and Ogden aren't cheap by any means.
The cheapest home available in Provo right now is a $362K 1100sqft house. The next one is just under $500k at 2000sqft.
a cheap house in Ogden is going to be just under $300k, and it'll be 1300sqft or less.
Outside of shitty Des Moines and the twin cities, that looks like a list of expensive places to live.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:53 pm to TeddyPadillac
Housing prices are outta control. It's hard to understand how this isn't a bubble.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:53 pm to LSUBoo
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Affordable housing in Bozeman probably still starts in the low $400Ks.
Well that's good to read.
I guess the feds haven't been able to push through Section 8 in Montana yet.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:54 pm to BeepNode
quote:it's pretty easy. the supply is not there.
It's hard to understand how this isn't a bubble.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 2:55 pm to fallguy_1978
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When I think middle class I think something like a married couple that's a cop and a teacher with 2 kids.
Median household income in the USA is like 65k. Don't pay any attention to the pretentious posers.
There's a boat load of affordable places to live, in decent areas. Just not in hip or trendy areas.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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, in decent areas. Just not in hip or trendy areas.
I bet many would have different definitions for this than you.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:03 pm to notiger1997
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I bet many would have different definitions for this than you.
I wouldn't consider a few block enclave surrounded by a shithole to be a "nice area" but we all have our biases.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I wouldn't consider a few block enclave surrounded by a shithole to be a "nice area" but we all have our biases.
That's kind of what I mean. Nola of course I guess is considered hip or something in many minds. I don't think so, but it's expensive as all hell.
Everyplace in this shithole state that I say is decent or above is stupid expensive. I know you are at the other end of the country, but all I hear is how bad prices are everywhere in the U.S. Where are these "affordable" decent areas that aren't 75 miles from the nearest city?
Posted on 1/18/22 at 3:12 pm to glassman
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Are you going to raise rabbits?
The real question is how many wives he has.
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