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re: More footage of the Bell407 that hit the spillway

Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:50 am to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62635 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:50 am to
Why was the helicopter flying so low?
Posted by Jdiggy
Member since Nov 2016
734 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:57 am to
It was extremely foggy. I assume that had something to do with it.
Posted by Briella
Member since Nov 2021
257 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:07 am to
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I won’t post it here but there is a video of the body laying on the highway next to the wreckage with extreme detail. Was taken by a car passing by


There’s only the censored versions out there, right?
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 10:07 am
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62635 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:08 am to
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It was extremely foggy. I assume that had something to do with it.


So the guy was Instrument Flight Rules (IFR) rated?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40210 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:20 am to
I'm not a pilot and I'm not an engineer... and I didn't pay too much attention in physics class... it's crazy to me that hitting a transmission wire would sheer off the rotor and cut the cabin open.
Posted by aardvark1975
St. Francisville
Member since Jan 2015
163 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:23 am to
I worked with the pilot at EMS a few years back. He was a real good dude. RIP J.H.
May the angels and saints meet you upon your arrival at the Pearly Gates.
Posted by DingleBarry
Member since Aug 2021
318 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:26 am to
Damn, Sorry for your loss bud.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:32 am to
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it's crazy to me that hitting a transmission wire would sheer off the rotor


You have a roughly 3500lb helicopter flying at 100-150mph. The impact force is immense.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37603 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:36 am to
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Seeing as how the biggest part of my adult working life was spent flying in them, not to mention the numerous HUET and BOSEIT certifications I've taken, it's not a stretch...in fact it's highly likely...that I know just a touch more about helicopters than you.

Not so subtle undisputed helicopter expert brag. But relevant.
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Judging by your desire to see the impact tells me that you're also the type that probably likes watching people being deheaded by terrorists, amirite?

To some of these sickos it’s like the money shot in pron I guess.
quote:

Tell me you don't know me without telling me

I don’t think we’re using this phrase anymore but it was quite witty for a short time.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
37603 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:38 am to
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I'm not a pilot and I'm not an engineer... and I didn't pay too much attention in physics class... it's crazy to me that hitting a transmission wire would sheer off the rotor and cut the cabin open

Me either but I think civilian helos are generally very thin and light and hence vulnerable.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
45383 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 10:42 am to
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I know just a touch more about helicopters than you.


You go, girl! What you do not know dick aboot is why I wanted to see the crash. I was more interested in the physics, and mechanics, of how it handled the crash. crumple zones, frame strengths, etc.

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Physically SEE him? Well no shite dumbass.

Since those were your words and thoughts, not mine, does that make you a dumbass?

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Judging by your desire to see the impact tells me that you're also the type that probably likes watching people being deheaded by terrorists, amirite?

Once again, your words and thoughts, not mine. Your thinking that you knew what I was thinking does not make you correct, and your guesses are not facts. It may behoove you to stop acting like they are facts.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 11:00 am to
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not to mention the numerous HUET and BOSEIT certifications I've taken


Look out. He's throwing around acronyms.

Posted by Chuckiee
Member since Jan 2007
2602 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 11:44 am to
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There’s only the censored versions out there, right?


My buddy sent me a video last night that isn't censored. You can clearly see the pilot laying on the spillway.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21608 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:01 pm to
Yikes, I can only imagine my reaction of horror if seeing that in person. Damn!
Posted by Jdiggy
Member since Nov 2016
734 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:16 pm to
There are completely uncensored version of the video.
Posted by andrewm
Member since Aug 2016
90 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:34 pm to
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I worked with the pilot at EMS a few years back. He was a real good dude. RIP J.H.
May the angels and saints meet you upon your arrival at the Pearly Gates.


I worked with him as well. He flew a charter flight for my company a few months ago. Also did some drone work together. Nicest guy you'll ever meet. We had numerous discussions on safety. I'm shocked this happened. I can't make sense of it.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14735 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:40 pm to
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Could the pilot convert from VFR to IFR while in transit?


Yea, but per FAA rules has to remain in VFR conditions until cleared by ATC to enter IMC.

At that point they would’ve given him vectors and an altitude to maintain that would’ve been clear of all nearby obstacles.
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
32010 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:40 pm to
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You can clearly see the pilot laying on the spillway.


So, he was ejected before it hit the bridge?
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:41 pm to
Sorry for your loss.
No one ever believes IT can happen to them.
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
2406 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:50 pm to
As a helicopter mechanic with 27 years experience, 23 years with 407's Ive seen the aftermath of what happens when a rotor under full power does when it hits something solid. The force will rip the transmission/Main Rotor Gear Box (part that is driving the main rotor via the Mast) from the aircraft, usually taking a large part of the roof with it. The Wire Strike Protection System has cutters projecting above and below the fuselage with a center deflector mounted between the left and right windshields. It is not designed to cut wires that thick. It probably hit the aircraft, slid up and possibly over the upper cutter or just broke it off and then the wire either hit the mast or got into the rotor system and started the event.
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 1:08 pm
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