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re: More footage of the Bell407 that hit the spillway
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:53 am to PapaPogey
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:53 am to PapaPogey
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Would he have had a better chance at survival had he hit the water?
Sure he would have had a better chance; from 0% to 5% maybe
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would the impact still have killed him?
More than likely
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Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:53 am to PapaPogey
“Get there itis” common term used in fatal aviation accidents involving controlled flight into obstacle/terrain. To early to comment but ceilings are definitely low and probably could have benefitted from filing an instrument flight plan. That would guarantee his obstacle clearance as he’s mandated to fly at certain altitudes with instruments. This is the similar type of situation that got Kobe Bryant.
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 7:55 am
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:00 am to Hangit
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If you have ever seen a helicopter
Seeing as how the biggest part of my adult working life was spent flying in them, not to mention the numerous HUET and BOSEIT certifications I've taken, it's not a stretch...in fact it's highly likely...that I know just a touch more about helicopters than you.
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We would not have seen the pilot die.
Physically SEE him? Well no shite dumbass.
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Apparently, you are quite sensitive, Nancy.
Tell me you don't know me without telling me you don't know me. Judging by your desire to see the impact tells me that you're also the type that probably likes watching people being deheaded by terrorists, amirite?
I just don't have that sick need in me. Call me weird.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:01 am to DingleBarry
That dude in the truck better say a prayer
1/4 second earlier and his arse is cooked
1/4 second earlier and his arse is cooked
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:08 am to The Torch
Does it seem like the dashcam driver just doesn't brake at all? What the actual frick?
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:11 am to ducktale
Helicopter was equipped with cutters on it too. He was having to skud run from the fog and never saw the lines. The line must have barely missed the top cutter and hit the rotor
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 8:14 am
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:21 am to CalCajun
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“Get there itis” common term used in fatal aviation accidents involving controlled flight into obstacle/terrain. To early to comment but ceilings are definitely low and probably could have benefitted from filing an instrument flight plan. That would guarantee his obstacle clearance as he’s mandated to fly at certain altitudes with instruments. This is the similar type of situation that got Kobe Bryant.
Would a VFR flight following help in this situation? Could the pilot convert from VFR to IFR while in transit?
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:36 am to roguetiger15
If you look at the vid good the cab looks destroyed on the way down. Pilot might not have even made it through the initial event.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:37 am to bayouvette
Yea the wires were prob so thick it may have peeled the cab open once it hit the cutter
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:41 am to MimosaRouge
if you look at the dash cam footage...the whole cabin was taken off and completely destroyed. He may have been dead from the power line impact...i dont think we know...but the angle at which he is falling with no cabin around him...yea water would have killed him too.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:41 am to Tigeralum2008
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Would a VFR flight following help in this situation?
no
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Could the pilot convert from VFR to IFR while in transit?
yes
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:08 am to 777Tiger
Aren’t most 407’s not even IFR capable? Poor guy likely hit fog quickly and thought he could run low to ground until clearing. Didn’t want to turn back and risk spatial disorientation like the Kobe crash?
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:19 am to DingleBarry
This is truly amazing. This is the first time a news site had the video of interest at the beginning of the article and not under several feet of advertisement videos.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:19 am to jcaz
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Aren’t most 407’s not even IFR capable?
There are some that are IFR capable.
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Poor guy likely hit fog quickly and thought he could run low to ground until clearing. Didn’t want to turn back and risk spatial disorientation like the Kobe crash?
Agree.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:20 am to Mr Breeze
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one simple, fatal mistake
27 years of aviation speaking,,,,,there’s a whole serious of poor choices that lead to this event, there were probably several capture opportunities that passed through his thoughts that he didn’t act on. Water crash survival, not likely,,,,,,he could have crashed onto any surface and the g forces woulda got him. You don’t survive a wire strike that separates the MR and a vertical departure from straight and level flight. It’s never happened and it never will.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:23 am to DingleBarry
Truly amazing more lives weren't lost...as bad as it was, could've been a lot worse. Prayers for the pilot's family.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:26 am to DingleBarry
Here’s the full video
https://youtu.be/WFBZwsEqMeA
https://youtu.be/WFBZwsEqMeA
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:43 am to Kjnstkmn
The driver of the other truck had a better reaction time. Looked like he got stopped before driving through the wreckage.
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:44 am to Kjnstkmn
I won’t post it here but there is a video of the body laying on the highway next to the wreckage with extreme detail. Was taken by a car passing by.
Edit. I will add that in watching the video my first thought was that I couldn’t believe people were videoing the body and no one was stopping to try to even see if he had a pulse.
Edit. I will add that in watching the video my first thought was that I couldn’t believe people were videoing the body and no one was stopping to try to even see if he had a pulse.
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 9:45 am
Posted on 12/16/21 at 9:49 am to ducktale
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Does it seem like the dashcam driver just doesn't brake at all?
Likely a fully loaded semi. Even so, his best bet was to push on through
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