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re: More details emerge on "Cornell 7" .. "Jane Doe" and family swatted .. death threats p15
Posted on 10/6/26 at 10:52 am to CR4090
Posted on 10/6/26 at 10:52 am to CR4090
quote:
Don't be the guy who kisses during a gangbang. You are one step away from going gay. Imagine trying to explain that one to your friends.
If you are at the gangbang, you are already gay.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 11:09 am to idlewatcher
quote:That doesn't seem to be the way this is going ...
Just wait until all the secrets come out. Her sorority sisters who have an ax to grind while out her yugely.
quote:Aside from any ulterior motives, it is amazing how differently the same actions can be viewed.
Months later, when Jane Doe made a statement before one of Cornell's internal investigative hearings, she explicitly called out what she described as “the coverups these boys attempted.”
Investigators looked into at least one instance when Ingalls appeared to ask one witness to “submit new evidence” that could exonerate him.
“You could submit new evidence that could get me and [Name Omitted] dismissed immediately. Even if [Jane Doe] found out it doesn’t matter, if the evidence is convincing enough to let us go then it’s proof she lied.”
“I don’t have evidence,” the woman – a friend of Jane Doe – said over Snapchat.
The friend shared the message with Jane Doe, who reported it to the university. The witness later told campus investigators that Ingalls sent her other messages to convince her to believe his account.
“From the beginning, after it happened and [Jane Doe] started telling me that it was not consensual from the beginning,” she said. “He wants to convince me that she is lying and he tried to convince me in other messages like this one that she was lying and he said that, ‘You know that she's lying And you know that we would never do this.’”
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Norris and Kretzschmar both separately told investigators as the text string continued, they became more concerned and went to the room to make sure LC was alright. They both claimed she was coherent, and said she was fine. They say they hung out a few minutes to satisfy themselves everything was actually okay. Then they left. Her account is they seemed "like voyeurs."
FWIW, Sarabia (the assault-kisser) claims she allayed his concerns as well, "I remember the girl in specific saying something along the lines of, 'This was normal in the medieval times.'"
In the aftermath, Ingalls says he was trying to contact her and her roommate to make sure she was doing fine. Lucy Craig and her roommate viewed that as trying to cover up what happened.
Ingalls had no idea she was the one who had filed the police complaint against the Frat. So he continued his conversations with her. Meanwhile, Craig started recording those conversations, and tried to lead him into implicating the participants in rape.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 11:12 am to baybeefeetz
Cornell's endowment is $11.8 billion. They've got 161 years experience running a university. All of the faculty and staff are politically aligned.
Cornell handpicked the students that are at Cornell.
They've got total control, but they still can't get it done.
Cornell handpicked the students that are at Cornell.
They've got total control, but they still can't get it done.
This post was edited on 10/6/26 at 11:12 am
Posted on 10/6/26 at 11:21 am to Stat M Repairman
I think they acted in good faith and in the interests of justice according to the letter of the applicable rules.
The protests are unfair. Somebody please prove that wrong.
The protests are unfair. Somebody please prove that wrong.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 11:31 am to baybeefeetz
Doe’s complaint alleged that several of the seven “were afforded the opportunity to mitigate their conduct by submitting essays”
Cornell called them "reflection papers."
Once Doe's Manhattan plaintiff's firm get's their hands on these essays, its gonna be the most expensive assignment ever issued by Cornell in it's 161 year history.
When these reflection essays come in, Doe's firm might even do a half day and all go out for tasty margs.
Cornell called them "reflection papers."
Once Doe's Manhattan plaintiff's firm get's their hands on these essays, its gonna be the most expensive assignment ever issued by Cornell in it's 161 year history.
When these reflection essays come in, Doe's firm might even do a half day and all go out for tasty margs.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 11:45 am to Stat M Repairman
Posted on 10/6/26 at 11:45 am to Stat M Repairman
I agree they will be cynically exploited.
The money grab aspect of this is disgusting.
The money grab aspect of this is disgusting.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 11:47 am to baybeefeetz
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The money grab aspect of this is disgusting.
That's all this entire thing is about. Getting paid. The truth of what happened is irrelevant.
This post was edited on 10/6/26 at 11:48 am
Posted on 10/6/26 at 11:50 am to Robin Masters
Their two heroes are a sloppy whore and a triple baby murderer
Believe all women
Believe all women
Posted on 10/6/26 at 11:50 am to Centinel
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That's all this entire thing is about. Getting paid. The truth of what happened is irrelevant.
She found out ole boy was from Dubai her eyes lit up with dollar signs.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 11:52 am to NC_Tigah
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Well, of those 5 who even touched the girl, the four "rapists" are White-Asian, White-Latino, White-Black, and White-ME/Muslim, and the assault-kisser is White-Latino. So .... ?
fixed for MSDNC
Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:08 pm to PsychTiger
" The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. "
Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:11 pm to baybeefeetz
quote:
The protests are unfair. Somebody please prove that wrong.
I don't disagree with the punishments if the entire information administrators had was "slutty kids had a drug fueled orgy but no one was raped".
It actually seems to be the DA turning the heat up on Cornell though by claiming the summation his office received was missing the most important details that would have led to a deeper investigation:
1. Jane Doe made a statement to Cornell Police that she was 100% confident she was gang raped
2. There was a screenshot of a group text message inviting guys to come frick her
I assume some people -- because most people tend to just take a side based on their biases -- are assuming some officials at Cornell intentionally left out the most noteworthy evidence from the summation sent to the DA.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:19 pm to wm72
Okay that gives me something to look into. Thanks.
This post was edited on 10/6/26 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:20 pm to Stat M Repairman
quote:I guess time will tell. Norris and Kretzschmar were given that "opportunity." I don't have a problem with the penalties Cornell meted out. Police investigated, forwarded their findings to the DA. Frat banned from campus. Two expelled. Two given multi-yr suspensions. One who graduated banned from campus for 3yrs (fired from his job). Two that checked on things, then left when Craig assured them she was fine, were given essay and educational requirements. (Hopefully, they got their lawyers to assist in reviewing that assignment.)
Doe’s complaint alleged that several of the seven “were afforded the opportunity to mitigate their conduct by submitting essays”
It would be interesting to know who is organizing the campus protests, and whether Craig's legal firm has its fingers in that to ratchet up pressure. The criminal trial, assuming it occurs, will be the fly in the ointment. That could get very ugly for Craig IMO. It could also easily push any civil findings into the 2030's.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:26 pm to Centinel
Jane Doe's liberal sorority sisters are going to slut shame her and do everything in their power to expose what she is all over social media. These liberal women will cannibalize her.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:31 pm to wm72
quote:That is 100% on the DA's office. They could've requested the full investigative report. They should have requested it, assuming it was not forwarded to them with the summary. Especially in a case like this.
It actually seems to be the DA turning the heat up on Cornell though by claiming the summation his office received was missing the most important details that would have led to a deeper investigation:
The fact that Lucy Craig filed a police report at all indicates she thought she was raped. Her opinion that this was "100% a rape" is both irrelevant, and implicit in the fact of the complaint to begin with. The DA was negligent, and is trying to pass the buck. That's one reason the state pulled him off the case.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:34 pm to RollTide1987
she was sober when she showed up and they were stumbling drunk already. interesting.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:34 pm to RollTide1987
And the bar will conveniently lose any video from the night in question.
Posted on 10/6/26 at 12:36 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
The fact that Lucy Craig filed a police report at all indicates she thought she was raped.
No, it indicates that she potentially went to the police with the intent of claiming rape, but backed off that claim after changing her story a rumored 20 times before affixing her signature to the affidavit. There is nothing in the sworn testimony she signed under penalty of perjury to suggest she was sexually assaulted at that frat house on the night in question.
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