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re: Mom Kicked Out of Rockettes at Radio City Due to Facial Recognition
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:46 am to Tvilletiger
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:46 am to Tvilletiger
In a way we have always done similar things. This is just a more advanced way of doing the same thing.
For example The first was things like a wanted poster at a US post office.
For example The first was things like a wanted poster at a US post office.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:47 am to John88
Most people tangentially support this rise of privacy invasion. "I have nothing to hide."
Well this is what happens. What next?
Well this is what happens. What next?
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:54 am to John88
Gotta love the ability to police good citizens with facial recognition
Posted on 12/21/22 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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Tell me how to stop this problem without expanding governmental power, which would be fascism itself.
Also, regulating businesses is a progressives wet dream, so your example is both fascist AND progressive.
Good job. Good effort.
yea i absolutely despise this kind of tech and in general cameras everywhere etc
but they are a private business and I hate the thought of regulating those and giving governement anymore power much much much more than a private business using this kind of tech.
have to ask yourself...whats more likely to be abused...a private business that must turn a profit using this or the government that can pretty much do what it wants using this to punish political oppenents.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:00 am to grizzlylongcut
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But is it an invasion of privacy?
Yep, specifically mine and my family’s.
You have an expectation of privacy in a public place?
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:04 am to John88
I get her frustration but I also understand where Radio City is coming from. If you work for a business that is in litigation against us, yeah you can frick off. Whether you claim you’re directly involved or not
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:09 am to Henry Jones Jr
I think this is a perfectly reasonable action by Radio City. I don’t want a plaintiff attorney that is suing me in my house or business so why should they allow her in.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:21 am to John88
There is no recourse for privacy violations under the 4th amendment; however, not allowing a paid customer the ability to use the service for some asinine, tangential reason does make them responsible for refunding the ticket cost. You could also make the case for pain and suffering from undue consequences of having to miss the event with your family.
This is a good example of how facial recognition software can be (and will likely be) used in the future. Think Minority Report and the market of cosmetic alterations to dodge those systems.
One thing I will point out with this software. It is extremely unreliable on people with beards. So in China its doing remarkably well for cultural and political reasons. In America courts are going to be loaded with cases of false identification lawsuits against private and public entities.
This is a good example of how facial recognition software can be (and will likely be) used in the future. Think Minority Report and the market of cosmetic alterations to dodge those systems.
One thing I will point out with this software. It is extremely unreliable on people with beards. So in China its doing remarkably well for cultural and political reasons. In America courts are going to be loaded with cases of false identification lawsuits against private and public entities.
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 8:27 am
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:32 am to bountyhunter
This is a very slippery slope that we are just starting to slide on
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:35 am to John88
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:35 am to BruslyTiger
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Casinos have been using this technology for at least a decade. This doesn't include law enforcement uses, but it was developed within the private sector
so as long as it wasn't developed in a government lab or the military, I guess its alright.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:35 am to bountyhunter
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There is no recourse for privacy violations under the 4th amendment; however, not allowing a paid customer the ability to use the service for some asinine, tangential reason does make them responsible for refunding the ticket cost. You could also make the case for pain and suffering from undue consequences of having to miss the event with your family.
its a private business, they warned the law firm, its a policy written out on their site and on the ticket T&Cs.
have no case
shite is scary but she has no case
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:37 am to YNWA
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That technology is awesome. I have nothing to hide. Plus, the country has become the wild west with all the guns, mass shootings, terrorists and thieves these days. It's unfortunate but it's needed in todays society.
this mindset is a bigger threat to today's society than anything you listed in your post.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:40 am to tigerinthebueche
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so as long as it wasn't developed in a government lab or the military, I guess its alright.
The question is what you want to do about it, and how does that conform to your stated political preferences?
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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The question is what you want to do about it,
I want to reduce government regulation by having the government regulate the use of Facial Recognition Tech employed by private entities!
This post was edited on 12/21/22 at 8:44 am
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:45 am to YNWA
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That technology is awesome. I have nothing to hide. Plus, the country has become the wild west with all the guns, mass shootings, terrorists and thieves these days. It's unfortunate but it's needed in todays society.
Right... So how long before it gets called racist because the facial recognition struggles with detail in individuals with more melanin? I'm sure we absolutely won't see this as being labeled as racist and a form of the "systematic racism" being employed by the rich powerful cis white male to hold down other races.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:45 am to Woodlands Tigah
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I want to reduce government regulation by having the government regulate the use of Facial Recognition Tech employed by private entities!
I'm a limited government conservative
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:56 am to John88
Wait until people realize the software can use facial cues, body language, etc to make educated guesses as to people having bad intentions…so they are more scrutinized and/or followed while onsite.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:56 am to Tvilletiger
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This is just a more advanced way of doing the same thing.
For example The first was things like a wanted poster at a US post office.
Nope! Big difference between being wanted for a crime and working for a company handling a lawsuit for someone in which you have no contact with the case. In fact, I'd say it wouldn't even matter if they did work on the case.
Posted on 12/21/22 at 8:59 am to LaLadyinTx
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In fact, I'd say it wouldn't even matter if they did work on the case.
If you handle civil litigation as an attorney and routinely go to businesses that you're actively suing then you're going to run into some problems very quickly. This isn't like being a public defender where you are forced to take cases. Part of the calculus that comes into play when you decide what cases you want to take are these sorts of effects.
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