re: Modern light bulbs - sick of the b.s.

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All that extra heat from incandescents is the electricity they burn but don't convert to light.

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And the trade-off for that is it's great in the winter, but sucks in the summer.

Given my experience with LEDs, I would prefer CFLs any day all day 24/7/365.

They are the best of both worlds between LED/incandescent from my years of swapping light bulbs in evry room of multiple houses.
If you want sheer durability, the electrician who wired our house when we built it in 2004 used all 130v commercial rated incandescent bulbs through the whole house. Over half of them have never been replaced. That is getting your $$$ worth.

You can buy led lightbulbs from Entergy for $.25 and the ones they sell are pretty good. Not the best, but the best are several dollars each.

Another OK bulb are the ones they sell at Dollar tree. The color isn't the best but they are bright and last a long time, they are good for areas you don't use as much.

The reason LED bulbs are so crappy is because they are cheaply made, LED's in more expensive applications, the exact same diodes, work fine for many thousands of hours.

If you want good old fashioned light bulbs you can get commercial filament bulbs from places like 1000 bulbs. They last WAY longer than the crap bulbs you use to buy in box stores because they are not designed with planned obsolescence in mind, they are designed to just plain work in commercial settings. In the areas I want the best quality of light, I use the commercial old fashioned bulbs. Mainly the kitchen, dining and bedroom.

I got the led ones at Walmart. Mother frickers flicker.

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Installing LED bulbs in recessed or enclosed fixtures without making sure the bulbs are rated for that service. LED’s are more sensitive to heat than incandescents, despite the fact that they run much cooler. Many people experience failures because they install run-of-the-mill LED bulbs inside recessed can lights or enclosed track fixtures with no ventilation.

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Glad I read the entire thread before posting. Saved me some typing.

LED lightbulbs are amazing. Don’t buy the cheapest available, and only use the right bulb for the situation, and they last for years, saving you a substantial amount of money in the process. fricking troglodytes.

You must have bought some cheap low quality stuff.

I put Feit LED exterior lights on my house in 2014. They run from dusk to dawn every day. None have burned out going on 7+ years.

I like the 3000K warm light LEDs. Same shade of light as the old incandescent.

I couldnt care less about price, longevity, etc.

Bought a house that had a metric frick ton of recessed lighting. All were incandescent (60w). Changed them all to LED because I didn't want to get a tan INSIDE. The heat they put off was ridiculous.

For most lighting I use Cree LEDs. At my old place, I had Cree bulbs last over 5 years before I moved. This included outdoor ones that were on all night for 10-12 hours every day.

In my current place, I've replaced every bulb with an LED when I moved in. Most are Cree, few LIFX and Phillips specialty bulbs. I have about 20 indoor bulbs that are on smart switches that turn on every evening for 6-8 hours and my outdoors ones are on dusk to dawn. I haven't had one failure in 3 years so far.

My mom did have one Cree bulb that failed within a year but chalk that up to bad luck. Cree does offer a 10 year warranty on their bulbs if you buy from an authorized retailer like Home Depot or Amazon.

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I have over 100 in one house (of various types, most medium Edison) and I have replaced one in just over 5 years based on my Amazon order date.

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Similar experience, I built new just over 5 years ago. 70 new bulbs per my rough count. Only one has failed. Before I built I replaced the bulbs in my old house and had a fairly high failure rate, but I bought the cheapest off-brand bulbs I could find. Only legit name brand bulbs went into the new house.

My electric bill averages around $110 in Florida, for 1,850 ft2. Put me down as happy with modern bulbs.

Individual brands of LED bulbs are not tested to determine their longevity. The "lifetime" claims are based upon several studies in perfectly controlled environments, with the bulbs and circuit board made of the highest quality materials and workmanship.

In reality, the LED can and will last as long as the lifetime claims, under those specific conditions, but all mass produced LED bulbs are made with the lowest, cost efficient materials and construction.

You will never get the cost to savings even close to even. As typical, the government pushed for the energy efficiency of LED and approved/encouraged the fraudulent generic claims.

Exactly the same with those massive wind turbines going up around the country. Yes, wind power is a gold standard renewable resource. Yes, the energy is "clean". In reality and practice, wind turbines do not produce enough energy in their lifetime to offset the energy used to manufacture, install and maintain them, not even close. And from what I've learned, the turbined are not recyclable, ultimately being buried in massive landfills.

A laudable goal, no doubt. LED bulbs and wind turbines could eventually develop into net neutral technology, but not likely before a newer, better, cheaper and more sustainable replacemnt is discovered.

Look for bulbs that meet the Energy Star requirements:

https://www.energystar.gov/products/lighting_fans/light_bulbs/key_product_criteria

I've had good performance from EcoSmart, Philips and Cree LED bulbs from Home Depot.