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re: Modern light bulbs - sick of the b.s.

Posted on 5/30/21 at 7:23 pm to
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38790 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 7:23 pm to
I rarely have to change bulbs anymore. They don't last as long as the box claims but probably 3 or 4 years.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34466 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 7:28 pm to
I have had pretty good luck with my interior LED lights. However, they are recessed, not the typical bulb shape design. They are 6 years old this June and I haven’t replaced any. Maybe being the recessed type is better from a design standpoint. Either way, I haven’t gotten 9 years out of them yet, much less 22.

My outdoor lights are another story. I bought the LED strand lights from Lowe’s and had to replace 2 of the 3 strands within two weeks of installation. My house sits up 5 feet off of the ground so in order to not look down on them, they have to be pretty damn high up in the trees. I sure hope what I have now lasts because I’m much too old to be scurrying up a 20 foot ladder.
Posted by LSUMJ
BR
Member since Sep 2004
19918 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 7:37 pm to
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I've started swapping fixtures to the LED fixtures with the little lights on the board (I don't know what they are called). We remodeled our kitchen almost six years ago, and I put up three LED fixtures. They're still working and are as bright as they've ever been. No changing bulbs for 6 years so far in those, only 4 more to go to hit what they advertised.


Ive had the opposite experience with the fixtures. Put them up in several spots after 2016 flood so probably early 2017.

2 have already gone out. In laundry room and hallway which are hardly ever on. Think they said good for 9 years
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 7:39 pm to
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Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21962 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:00 pm to
When we moved into our house 18 years ago the contractor put in some Satco 60 watt, 120 volt rated vibration resistant light bulbs. I have still have a couple left that I never changed out.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:07 pm to
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I think they last about twice as long as regular ones but they don't really justify the additional cost imo.

Let's assume 60W incandescent bulbs are completely free and the LEDs are at market costs. According to Amazon, 8 GE LED 60W equivalent bulbs are $17.81 for an 8-pack or $2.23 per bulb.

60W incandescent bulbs draw 60W. 60W equivalent LEDs are about 9W, so roughly 1/6 the electrical consumption.

Electricity in Louisiana averages about $0.10/kWh. So, to run a 60W incandescent bulb an hour uses up 60 Wh of energy (0.06 kWh), that costs about $0.006. The 60W equivalent LED costs 1/6 of that, or about $0.001 to run for an hour. So for every hour, an incandescent bulb costs about $0.005 more to power than an LED.

At a difference of about $0.005 per hour, after 446 hours, the completely free incandescent bulb will have cost you $2.23 more to power than the $2.23 LED bulb.

If you run the bulb 2 hours a day, that's 7.5 months.
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 8:09 pm
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68387 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:09 pm to
hey quit complaining

the new ones are 100 lumins brighter and energy cost 8 cents less per year

jokes aside- I just bought 2 1000 lumin indoor flood lights for 20 damn dollars.

outrageous
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99234 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:12 pm to
Jury is out on some of mine.

However, GE LEDs that were in a fixture over my kitchen sink when I moved in 9 years ago only JUST burned out and they stay on almost all day (and certainly all night).
This post was edited on 5/30/21 at 9:08 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9657 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 8:18 pm to
Pretty much everything made in China is not worth a bag of cat shite
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7322 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:07 pm to
I’ve had trouble getting some LED bulbs to make proper contact in the socket. The only benefit of LEDs to me is they don’t put off as much heat as incandescent bulbs.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28730 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:09 pm to
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The only benefit of LEDs to me is they don’t put off as much heat as incandescent bulbs.
All that extra heat from incandescents is the electricity they burn but don't convert to light.
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:10 pm to


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Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:11 pm to
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I've started swapping fixtures to the LED fixtures with the little lights on the board


I have the same fixture at the camp except in nickel. It has two Circulon bulbs and the ballast went out and I replaced it with a retrofit that runs off line voltage. It has been fine and has probably a little more light but that is comparing worn bulbs to new LEDs.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28730 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:14 pm to
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Light bulbs are the original scam. Edison's first bulb is still burning. Look it up.

They build them to break. Motherfrickers.
I'm not sure Edison's first bulb is still burning, but there absolutely was (is?) a secret deal between light bulb manufacturers so that none of them would make bulbs that last forever.

Phoebus cartel
Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:23 pm to
What the hell brand are y’all buying?

I replaced all of ours in home about 4 years ago and haven’t replaced a single one. I got them from Home Depot. Replaced 50 of my office ceiling lights to some LED brand, none out. Business signage lighting LED on 24/7... 2 years never out.
Posted by Tempratt
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Member since Oct 2013
13457 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:25 pm to
I've noticed that Great Value and Sylvania LED bulbs last the longest.

GE versions don't last.

Also the Great Value ones are supposedly made in USA. SO I'm guessing they aren't made by GE.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21500 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:35 pm to
I purchased 4 cases of light bulbs before the changed them all and went up in price. Will last me a lifetime.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28730 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:38 pm to
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I purchased 4 cases of light bulbs before the changed them all and went up in price. Will last me a lifetime.
Why?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28730 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:45 pm to
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Let's assume 60W incandescent bulbs are completely free and the LEDs are at market costs. According to Amazon, 8 GE LED 60W equivalent bulbs are $17.81 for an 8-pack or $2.23 per bulb.

60W incandescent bulbs draw 60W. 60W equivalent LEDs are about 9W, so roughly 1/6 the electrical consumption.

Electricity in Louisiana averages about $0.10/kWh. So, to run a 60W incandescent bulb an hour uses up 60 Wh of energy (0.06 kWh), that costs about $0.006. The 60W equivalent LED costs 1/6 of that, or about $0.001 to run for an hour. So for every hour, an incandescent bulb costs about $0.005 more to power than an LED.

At a difference of about $0.005 per hour, after 446 hours, the completely free incandescent bulb will have cost you $2.23 more to power than the $2.23 LED bulb.

If you run the bulb 2 hours a day, that's 7.5 months.
The extra heat that your AC doesn't have to remove saves about the same amount of money on top of that (maybe offset a bit by more heating required during winter).

My sister switched her whole house from incandescents to LEDs all on the same day, and her electricity bills dropped by $100/month.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9599 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 9:46 pm to
I installed about 30 Phillips LED bulbs over 4 years ago and haven’t had one go out yet, despite the fact that they often stay on 24 hours (on a dimmer) in my living room. I’m certain that these bulbs have saved me money (particularly the GU10 bulbs) and they are cheaper now than they were when I bought them.

Some brands are better than others, sure. But most of the time there is a reason someone’s LED bulbs are burning out prematurely. Some examples I can think of:

- Installing LED bulbs in recessed or enclosed fixtures without making sure the bulbs are rated for that service. LED’s are more sensitive to heat than incandescents, despite the fact that they run much cooler. Many people experience failures because they install run-of-the-mill LED bulbs inside recessed can lights or enclosed track fixtures with no ventilation.

- In my case, I actually had some entire low-voltage MR16 fixtures fail in my kitchen. Turns out that many older 12V fixtures with built in transformers (e.g. 120V supply to the fixture) have a minimum required output. Since the LED bulbs are so efficient, the transformers can fail from the small load.

So yeah, they aren’t entirely foolproof. But they’ve been a net cost savings for me and the convenience of not having to change bulbs for years at a time is pretty nice as well. It’s a little curious that OP would buy the same exact brand of bulb if he wasn’t satisfied with the first set.
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