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re: Mississippi River could change its course forever during one major flood
Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:18 pm to TDsngumbo
Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:18 pm to TDsngumbo
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Can you imagine the worldwide impacts?
The world wouldn't miss a beat.
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The unimaginable flooding?
It's very imaginable. One of the biggest rivers in the world and we're arrogant enough to think we can make it do what we want it to do.
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:23 pm to wadewilson
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The world wouldn't miss a beat.
You're kidding yourself.
Looking at around 2 million barrels of refining capacity offline almost indefinitely (possibly immediately). Not to mention all the other petrochem facilities.
Doesn't even touch on the destruction through Morgan City that would disrupt upstream.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:24 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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2/3 of the US drains into the Mississippi River. It would disrupt international trade bigly.
It would find a new path to the gulf and deepen that path, and we would build new docks to offload and onload ships and barges.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:28 pm to TDsngumbo
Rivers find the easiest path. The current MS river route through BR and NOLA is not the easiest path.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:35 pm to spslayto
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One good thing if that happens. Traffic is more easily fixed. ??
Traffic is more easily fixed because there is no traffic. In this scenario, I-10 over the Atchafalaya basin and 190 are both washed out.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:39 pm to fightin tigers
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Looking at around 2 million barrels of refining capacity offline almost indefinitely (possibly immediately).
Which refineries will be flooded?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:51 pm to TDsngumbo
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there's literally no going back
There literally is “going back”
The Corps will throw everything at it. In fact, it has happened before. I worked closely with the Corps 20 years ago when I worked at the Hydro plant. No one is going to let that river change course.
Anything is possible, but no resource would be spared. This story comes up once a year it seems like. Must be a slow news cycle.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:52 pm to wadewilson
Probably referring to water supply
Posted on 2/4/18 at 2:53 pm to jimbeam
quote:And why this coonass doesn't live by a river.
Rivers find the easiest path. The current MS river route through BR and NOLA is not the easiest path.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:03 pm to wadewilson
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Which refineries will be flooded?
It’s not about them being flooded, it’s about producing potable water for the facility.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:06 pm to TDsngumbo
I thought this was obvious?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:13 pm to TDsngumbo
You understand this is what rivers do right?
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:16 pm to Jcorye1
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2/3 of the US drains into the Mississippi River. It would disrupt international trade bigly. It would find a new path to the gulf and deepen that path, and we would build new docks to offload and onload ships and barges.
The slow down to come up the Mississippi would be sped up and something automated like LongBeach CA might result.
On the salinity of Pontchartrain. I'd never tell anyone to drink directly from Pontchartrain, but I've accidentally tasted it near the Causeway and it's definitely salty. I've also tasted it at the western end of the Lake where the barnacles are few and far between and it is so much less salty.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:18 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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quote: The lake is brackish. It would cause the same corrosion problems, just at a slower rate because of the lower salinity.
Lake Ponchartrain isn't really a lake. It's a tidal estuary.
Yep. But I was thinking the lower salinity would make the conversion to potable water easier.
That's very possibly correct. I don't know how desalination plants work, but intuitively, it seems like less salt would be easier to remove than more salt.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:18 pm to Bigfishchoupique
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It plugged the mouth of the river for about ten days. There were probaly about 100 ships on anchor in the Gulf trying to get in. Ships from around the world.
Take a ride down Highway 23 through Plaquemines Parish all the way down to Venice. From the highway, You’ll see tons of ships anchored in the river waiting to go upstream.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:22 pm to wadewilson
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Traffic is more easily fixed because there is no traffic. In this scenario, I-10 over the Atchafalaya basin and 190 are both washed out.
Most people traveling from New Orleans to Lake Charles wouldn't consider having to take I-20 as an easy fix.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:26 pm to wadewilson
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Which refineries will be flooded?
Refineries being under water won't be the problem. Receiving crude and shipping finished product will be the issue.
Every utility and plant that uses river water for cooling or process will have huge problems. That'll be a bigger issue than municipal water supply.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:29 pm to real turf fan
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I've also tasted it at the western end of the Lake where the barnacles are few and far between and it is so much less salty.
I lived just upstream of the Madisonville bridge and the water tasted fresh, but I caught crabs off my dock and got barnacles on anything left in the water.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 3:35 pm to wadewilson
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One of the biggest rivers in the world and we're arrogant enough to think we can make it do what we want it to do.
We can and will make it do what we want. It is not the 1800's.
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