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re: Mississippi River could change its course forever during one major flood
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:19 pm to Tiger Prawn
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:19 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Has the BR loop been built by time the MS River changes course?
Only if the river is diverted way west to Lake Charles and the Calcasieu River.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:21 pm to TDsngumbo
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one major flood could cause it to fail and if that happens, there's literally no going back.
I don't believe this
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:27 pm to Topwater Trout
Unless youre willing to change the hydraulic gradient of an entire river, any fix the corps comes up with is going to be short term and just big enough until a really big flood comes along. Then either the whole structure fails catastrophically, or it fails in a random spot, causing no shortage of terror for the residents who now have the Mississippi in their back yards.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:29 pm to LaBornNRaised
You need to retract that frivolous, tawdry statement at once.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 3:26 pm to Topwater Trout
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one major flood could cause it to fail and if that happens, there's literally no going back.
I don't believe this
What makes you think that once the river changes course, you'll be able to bring it back through Baton Rouge and New Orleans? That's an absolutely tremendous amount of flow to deal with there. There would be no attempt to fix the problem until the water level goes down tremendously, which would take about 2 months. That's a lot of time for it to carve quite a deep trough into the bottom of the Atchafalaya River basin, likely resulting in its permanent foothold. If the Corps could tame its new path and redirect it back through BR and NOLA, I'd have my faith in the federal government completely restored.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 2/5/18 at 5:17 pm to BayouBengals18
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Take a ride down Highway 23 through Plaquemines Parish all the way down to Venice. From the highway, You’ll see tons of ships anchored in the river waiting to go upstream.
There are anchorages for all 230 miles of river between head of passes and Baton Rouge that stay packed 24/7/365.what does that have to do with shutting down the pass ?
Posted on 2/5/18 at 6:41 pm to Topwater Trout
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Posted by Topwater Trout on 2/5/18 at 2:21 pm to TDsngumbo quote: one major flood could cause it to fail and if that happens, there's literally no going back. I don't believe this
I don't see how you could possibly believe we could force it back when a river with the flow of the MS makes a complete shift like that
I would be seriously interested in your thoughts on how
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:24 pm to lostinbr
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The third and fourth largest refineries in the United States (Marathon Garyville and XOM Baton Rouge) would go offline, reducing US refining capacity by over a million barrels per day.
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The loss of P66 Alliance, Valero St. Charles, PBF Chalmette, Valero Meraux, Shell Convent, and Shell Norco would reduce capacity by an additional 1.25 MM bbl/d.
For perspective, that would be 2.25 MM bbl/d out of the total US refining capacity of about 18.6 MM bbl/d, or about 12%. This would lead to massive shortages of gasoline and diesel in the US, which could cripple our economy (and consequently the global economy as well). It may also cause the price of crude produced in the US to plummet. The super majors would survive, but all of the smaller US-based companies invested in the shale plays may go under depending on how the market lines out.
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The economic impact would be felt on a global scale. It may not be the apocalypse but it would be significant.
Someone want to explain to me why Louisiana is poor?
Yes that's a rhetorical question.
The real question is, why isn't everybody asking this question and why hasn't anything ever been done about it?
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:26 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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I've said it 100 times,
Man, you've got it all figured out.
I've said it 100 times that the world will in. I'm going to be correct one day.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:40 pm to nola000
Because refining doesn't produce the same profits that raw crude provides.
Also, taxing that base into oblivion would guarantee their immediate departure.
Also, taxing that base into oblivion would guarantee their immediate departure.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:42 pm to fightin tigers
And you have to cut out a huge chunk of profits to line the pockets of the Louisiana politicians and powerful families
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:44 pm to TigerTatorTots
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And you have to cut out a huge chunk of profits to line the pockets of the Louisiana politicians and powerful families
Corruption isn't unique to Louisiana
The top doesn't nearly take as much as the bottom.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 8:45 pm
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