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re: Mississippi River could change its course forever during one major flood
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:39 pm to BayouBengals18
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:39 pm to BayouBengals18
Yes. That and with all the diversions planned along the MS river, they'll do whatever possible to keep its current course
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:48 pm to jimbeam
I think it would be a short term change of course. Corps of engineers would bring barges of limestone rocks just south of old river CS and blow up to sink in low water /flow like August to force the river back to current path. Too much financial impact to let it go down Atchafalaya.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:52 pm to wadewilson
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Which refineries will be flooded?
Are you obtuse? You realize they locate on the water for a multitude of reasons. Cooling water, deliveries and shipments...
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:59 pm to Cosmo
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New Orleans is already slowly losing its port business
I love it when I can tell which posters don’t have a fricking clue what they are talking about.
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:54 pm to Duckhammer_77
I've said it 100 times, the MS will shift to the Atchafalaya AT some point. Nothing we can do about it
Might be 5, 50, or 500 years but it WILL happen
I look forward to our government trying to force it to its current course for decades/centuries to come until the last moment when it shifts and being completely unprepared when they could've instead spent this time/money preparing for the shift
Might be 5, 50, or 500 years but it WILL happen
I look forward to our government trying to force it to its current course for decades/centuries to come until the last moment when it shifts and being completely unprepared when they could've instead spent this time/money preparing for the shift
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:33 pm to TDsngumbo
quote:That cargo would still have to be moved. The entire middle of the country will still be there, regardless of where the Mississippi's mouth is, and they will still be engaged in commerce. It'll be bad, but life will go on.
New Orleans would lose its status as a major port and would effectively die a quick economic death overnight.
And, given the effort it would take to make the new channel navigable, it's plausible that some kind of canal of channel would be constructed that still made New Orleans a central fixture in that trade.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:22 am to BayouBengals18
It's hard to imagine, just as all disasters are.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:29 am to TDsngumbo
New Orleans and Morgan City fricked
Houma stacked.
Houma stacked.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:12 am to kingbob
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The problem for New Orleans is that the saltwater wedge would go past Kenner, meaning the entire New Orleans area would lose its source of fresh water. The entire water system would be destroyed and expensive desalinization plants would have to be installed IMMEDIATELY
Costly, but at least their drinking water would be worth a shite.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:31 am to TDsngumbo
Remember the 1973 flood? We thought Big Muddy was going to take out Morgan City when the ORCS failed.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:33 am to Tony The Tiger
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The problem for New Orleans is that the saltwater wedge would go past Kenner, meaning the entire New Orleans area would lose its source of fresh water. The entire water system would be destroyed and expensive desalinization plants would have to be installed IMMEDIATELY
Costly, but at least their drinking water would be worth a shite.
Freshwater aqueduct from the Northshore would probably be more feasible.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:40 am to Duckhammer_77
YES, would still have deep water access. However, the problem is then it wouldn't have inland access via waterway. Although truck and rail distribution can sustain a port NOLA became a thing because of its inland access to 2/3 of the US via waterway.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:45 am to jimbeam
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Yes. That and with all the diversions planned along the MS river, they'll do whatever possible to keep its current course
Can you imagine the major flooding across southeast Louisiana if there's a failure on the eastern levee during a major flood? Or if it gets so high that the ORCS fails and they have to start blowing the levees to save some areas? We just thought August 2016 was terrible. There'd be backwater flooding on a size and scale the country has never seen before. Every river, canal, and bayou around would rise above its banks ten fold and water upstream wouldn't have anywhere to go for hundreds of miles.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 8:47 am
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:47 am to TDsngumbo
It nearly happened after very heavy rains in Louisiana met up with Mississippi river flioding.
Yes it can still happen.
Yes we know that the expense
Would crush Louisiana and usa economy.
Yes it can still happen.
Yes we know that the expense
Would crush Louisiana and usa economy.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 8:48 am
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:55 am to real turf fan
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I am a geologist with a lot of hours in Sedimentology.
Sounds exciting!
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:56 am to TDsngumbo
How would it affect Baton Rouge?
Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:20 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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How would it affect Baton Rouge?
Considering the scenario would present an unprecedented event, I have no idea. I'd imagine it would be horrific, though.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 1:47 pm to CarrolltonTiger
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I doubt anyone knows specifically to what mile marker the salt water wedge would intrude, and it would be more rational, quicker and cheaper to build pipes say 20 miles up river to obtain fresh water than abandon our existing water system.
I think the real problem is where along the current path of the bottom of the Miss River crosses the 0' elevation marker. According to some rough numbers, that place lies between BR and NOLA.
Assuming the stretch between NOLA and BR gets silted up, theres a real possibility the river dries up completely north of where the 0' elevation meets the current bottom of the river.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 1:50 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Freshwater aqueduct from the Northshore would probably be more feasible.
Northshore wouldn't allow it. It has been tried before.
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:15 pm to wadewilson
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Traffic is more easily fixed because there is no traffic. In this scenario, I-10 over the Atchafalaya basin and 190 are both washed out.
Has the BR loop been built by time the MS River changes course?
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