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re: Mississippi River could change its course forever during one major flood

Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:39 pm to
Yes. That and with all the diversions planned along the MS river, they'll do whatever possible to keep its current course
Posted by deathinthedelta
Member since Oct 2014
365 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:48 pm to
I think it would be a short term change of course. Corps of engineers would bring barges of limestone rocks just south of old river CS and blow up to sink in low water /flow like August to force the river back to current path. Too much financial impact to let it go down Atchafalaya.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79876 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:52 pm to
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Which refineries will be flooded?



Are you obtuse? You realize they locate on the water for a multitude of reasons. Cooling water, deliveries and shipments...
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11013 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 7:59 pm to
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New Orleans is already slowly losing its port business



I love it when I can tell which posters don’t have a fricking clue what they are talking about.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64569 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 8:54 pm to
I've said it 100 times, the MS will shift to the Atchafalaya AT some point. Nothing we can do about it

Might be 5, 50, or 500 years but it WILL happen


I look forward to our government trying to force it to its current course for decades/centuries to come until the last moment when it shifts and being completely unprepared when they could've instead spent this time/money preparing for the shift
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16369 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 9:33 pm to
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New Orleans would lose its status as a major port and would effectively die a quick economic death overnight.
That cargo would still have to be moved. The entire middle of the country will still be there, regardless of where the Mississippi's mouth is, and they will still be engaged in commerce. It'll be bad, but life will go on.

And, given the effort it would take to make the new channel navigable, it's plausible that some kind of canal of channel would be constructed that still made New Orleans a central fixture in that trade.
This post was edited on 2/4/18 at 9:37 pm
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:22 am to
It's hard to imagine, just as all disasters are.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 7:29 am to
New Orleans and Morgan City fricked

Houma stacked.
Posted by Tony The Tiger
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Sep 2003
2744 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:12 am to
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The problem for New Orleans is that the saltwater wedge would go past Kenner, meaning the entire New Orleans area would lose its source of fresh water. The entire water system would be destroyed and expensive desalinization plants would have to be installed IMMEDIATELY


Costly, but at least their drinking water would be worth a shite.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:31 am to
Remember the 1973 flood? We thought Big Muddy was going to take out Morgan City when the ORCS failed.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:33 am to
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quote:
The problem for New Orleans is that the saltwater wedge would go past Kenner, meaning the entire New Orleans area would lose its source of fresh water. The entire water system would be destroyed and expensive desalinization plants would have to be installed IMMEDIATELY


Costly, but at least their drinking water would be worth a shite.


Freshwater aqueduct from the Northshore would probably be more feasible.
Posted by PCRammer
1725 Slough Avenue in Scranton, PA
Member since Jan 2014
1979 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:40 am to
YES, would still have deep water access. However, the problem is then it wouldn't have inland access via waterway. Although truck and rail distribution can sustain a port NOLA became a thing because of its inland access to 2/3 of the US via waterway.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51639 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:45 am to
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Yes. That and with all the diversions planned along the MS river, they'll do whatever possible to keep its current course

Can you imagine the major flooding across southeast Louisiana if there's a failure on the eastern levee during a major flood? Or if it gets so high that the ORCS fails and they have to start blowing the levees to save some areas? We just thought August 2016 was terrible. There'd be backwater flooding on a size and scale the country has never seen before. Every river, canal, and bayou around would rise above its banks ten fold and water upstream wouldn't have anywhere to go for hundreds of miles.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 8:47 am
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:47 am to
It nearly happened after very heavy rains in Louisiana met up with Mississippi river flioding.

Yes it can still happen.

Yes we know that the expense
Would crush Louisiana and usa economy.
This post was edited on 2/5/18 at 8:48 am
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69585 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:55 am to
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I am a geologist with a lot of hours in Sedimentology.



Sounds exciting!
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69585 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 8:56 am to
How would it affect Baton Rouge?
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51639 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 9:20 am to
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How would it affect Baton Rouge?

Considering the scenario would present an unprecedented event, I have no idea. I'd imagine it would be horrific, though.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 1:47 pm to
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I doubt anyone knows specifically to what mile marker the salt water wedge would intrude, and it would be more rational, quicker and cheaper to build pipes say 20 miles up river to obtain fresh water than abandon our existing water system.


I think the real problem is where along the current path of the bottom of the Miss River crosses the 0' elevation marker. According to some rough numbers, that place lies between BR and NOLA.

Assuming the stretch between NOLA and BR gets silted up, theres a real possibility the river dries up completely north of where the 0' elevation meets the current bottom of the river.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
50050 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 1:50 pm to
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Freshwater aqueduct from the Northshore would probably be more feasible.



Northshore wouldn't allow it. It has been tried before.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26350 posts
Posted on 2/5/18 at 2:15 pm to
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Traffic is more easily fixed because there is no traffic. In this scenario, I-10 over the Atchafalaya basin and 190 are both washed out.


Has the BR loop been built by time the MS River changes course?
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