re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside

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Come on people, a person was KILLED and regardless if there are charges or not, be respectful.

Start on time and stop the stupid laughing!

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agreed

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I'm just stating that "That's a fact" is not true because of the circumstances that you have just agreed on.

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I said it was a fact that Gasser could not just open fire at McKnight for getting out of the car and walking towards him. That alone is not justification.

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This entire line of conversation started when someone suggested Gasser could shoot McKnight if he was scared when McKnight got out of the car. That isn't nearly enough to hit the criteria for a justifiable homicide.

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I agree. Because at that point he could just drive off and flee. But let me ask you this, what if he was boxed in and couldn't flee? And the words spoken by McKnight before they stopped at the red light were, "I'm going to get out of my car and kill you!!" I know I would be scared the second he got out of his vehicle at that point. Justifiable? Or does he have to wait until he is IN the vehicle?

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stop the stupid laughing

what are you talking about?

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He's talking about the people at the presser.

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Am i missing sonething, has somethig came out that would justify the shooting. From everything I have read, it looks like murder straight up. But now the guy is being released. What gives?

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Hopefully we're about to find out...

What gives is we have no idea.

And if we have learned anything, the initial media reports and eye witness testimony are unreliable at best and intentionally calculated to heighten racial tensions at worst.

Starting now!!

Link?

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The key word is reasonable and imminent.

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I disagree. The key words are "reasonably believes".

If you can't distinguish the difference between being in imminent danger, and "reasonably believing" you are imminent danger, I don't know what to tell you.

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That isn't nearly enough to hit the criteria for a justifiable homicide.

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Again, you conveniently ignore the entire point of the law that YOU quoted as being the law of the land. Whether you want to admit it or not, the ONLY thing that matters is whether or not you had a "reasonable" belief that you were in fear of imminent danger and loss of life. You have no idea what that criteria is. None. It's impossible to know what a 12 man jury will decide is reasonable.

Can you at least admit that when you stated it all comes down to whether or not he was in imminent danger, that's not correct?

Words alone or not enough. None of us were there to see exactly what happens, but saying I'm going to walk over and kill you is not enough to justify a shooting. If he was saying that while waving a gun, then maybe, but not just words.