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re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside

Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:08 pm to
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I will never understand why it is the norm to be late for press conferences. In every other line of business it is extremely unprofessional.


Someone cracked a joke about the NAACP presser being late but also expected. I guess that jokester doesn't have anything witty for JPSO's punctuality.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:10 pm to
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If McKnight verbally threatened severe harm or death to Gasser before getting out of his car, Gasser has the right to defend himself with deadly force while McKnight is approaching the vehicle.


If Gasser can make the case that he had a reasonable fear for his life AND he was in imminent danger AND that the killing was necessary to save himself from that danger, sure.

A few verbal threats and a guy getting out of his vehicle aren't enough on their own.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 1:11 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78359 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

Your point? In every other form of business being late is considered extremely unprofessional. Press conferences and doctors appointments seem to be allowed to not give a frick


It isn't true for just those two, but again, they hold all the power.

Like the DMV taking forever, what are you going do.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

I will never understand why it is the norm to be late for press conferences.


They gotta get their bullshite story straight first...
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
15068 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:12 pm to
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They gotta get their bullshite story straight first...


So just announce a later start time?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:12 pm to
Being 12+ minutes late on a press conference that is 4+ hours late itself is essentially a big frick you to the public.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:12 pm to
Are we already going with that narrative? Just bc it doesn't fit the narrative you want doesn't mean it's bs just FYI
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74239 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:13 pm to
did my screen freeze or has it not started yet?

Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

Being 12+ minutes late on a press conference that is 4+ hours late itself is essentially a big frick you to the public.


Normand is a known dickhead but he's often applauded for it.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
86127 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:14 pm to
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Gasser can only use deadly force if he is acting in self defense and his life is in imminent danger, and you'll have a hard time convincing people that is the case when you're in a vehicle and McKnight is just walking towards you.

Not true, based on your own previous quote of the law. Read the law that you posted.
quote:

When committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of losing his life or receiving great bodily harm and that the killing is necessary to save himself from that danger.

It's not if his life is in imminent danger If it's he reasonably believes it. He may not in fact be in any imminent danger. A guy can be aiming a toy gun at you. Are you in imminent danger? No. Is it reasonable to believe that you were at the time? Very possibly.
Posted by StripedSaint
Member since Jun 2011
2385 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:15 pm to
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If Gasser can make the case that he had a reasonable fear for his life AND he was in imminent danger AND that the killing was necessary to save himself from that danger, sure.

I'm just stating that "That's a fact" is not true because of the circumstances that you have just agreed on.
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A few verbal threats and a guy getting out of his vehicle aren't enough on their own.

Agree. Calling guy an a-hole and getting out of your car won't warrant being shot.
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
6352 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

Being 12+ minutes late on a press conference that is 4+ hours late itself is essentially a big frick you to the public.


Yes, this is pretty pathetic.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93239 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:17 pm to
1:18pm no presser yet.

isn't 15 minutes the rule at LSU to bolt from class if the teacher doesn't show up?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74239 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:18 pm to
thought it was starting but it was just a guy fixing WGNO's mic.

Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130199 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:18 pm to
I am not surprised by this from Newell at all.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:18 pm to
This is getting ridiculous. It's going to piss off people even more if they don't drop some bombshell here one way or the other.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111312 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:18 pm to
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I am not surprised by this from Newell at all
If anyone can grandstand and suck his own dick, it is Newell
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24196 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:19 pm to
Did they mean 1 pacific? or maybe Mountain time? This is absurd
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
6352 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:19 pm to
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1:18pm no presser yet.

isn't 15 minutes the rule at LSU to bolt from class if the teacher doesn't show up?


And then there are people LAUGHING in the background. Come on people, a person was KILLED and regardless if there are charges or not, be respectful.

Start on time and stop the stupid laughing!
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 1:20 pm to
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It's not if his life is in imminent danger If it's he reasonably believes it. He may not in fact be in any imminent danger. A guy can be aiming a toy gun at you. Are you in imminent danger? No. Is it reasonable to believe that you were at the time? Very possibly.


The key word is reasonable and imminent. This entire line of conversation started when someone suggested Gasser could shoot McKnight if he was scared when McKnight got out of the car. That isn't nearly enough to hit the criteria for a justifiable homicide.
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