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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:18 pm to
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
8300 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:18 pm to
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if that's what happened, why lie about the timeline to begin with??


I sincerely think there is a fair amount of information they aren't letting out, and notice the leaks came to a screeching halt. 

There are a few possibilities. 

A) they truly don't know anything. 

B) There were accomplice(s), but they can't find them, and don't want to announce it because they will be overwhelmed with people reporting suspicious behavior. Making it harder to actually find who they are looking for.

C) there were other shooters, but they know if they announce it, pandemonium would ensue. Civilian militias looking for them...etc. 

D) he had help, and is connected to a larger organization with people in the U.S. and they are pulling the loose thread that is Stephen Paddock. 

E) they know the motive, but don't want to release it because people either wouldn't believe it, it would make them angry, or he did it because of something that is classified but he was aware of because he had worked for a defense contractor. 

F) they truly don't know anything.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:20 pm to
Over a week and we still don't know shite. I wonder if the "you aren't entitled to the investigation" crowd is still breathing
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:21 pm to
Still here dickface
Posted by Kingpenm3
Xanadu
Member since Aug 2011
9915 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:24 pm to
Will we find out what his assets were at some point? Will the brother let them out? I'm still thinking he might have gambled away his money.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:28 pm to
Well the "you're a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist" crowd certainly got quiet after today's press conference
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40811 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:33 pm to
Why has the most basic evidence like video of him entering the main entry of hotel not being released?

With Van Der Sloot, they had footage of him playing black jack in Mexico within a day or so of Holloway's disappearance.
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
7408 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:34 pm to
Perhaps the guard was the accomplice and the investigators are changing the story now to ease us into this revelation? This would also explain why we haven't seen any interviews or information about the Campos.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:35 pm to
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If it was ISIS or a foreign terrorist, Trump would be shouting it from the rooftops even if it compromised the investigation.


And admit that there is also then a network supporting an operation like this? Paddock did most of the work, but he had to have had 2 or 3 people at that hotel acting "friendly" for him at least. Did he barricade the stair doors? Or maybe one or two other guys after taking his alan snackbar video.

They blast off 200 rounds to scare anyone off, bar the stairs to make it look like no one used it, and go up a couple flights, and over the hotel to the rest of the panic. They then shoot from a second location and manage to escape again.

Now you've got 3 loose terrorists out there, probably with bump stock fired ARs with night vision scopes, tracer rounds, and tactical flashlights attached to them. The panic would be insane.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:37 pm to
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This would also explain why we haven't seen any interviews or information about the Campos


the whole Campos thing is so bizarre to me

yet another guy with no social media presence - i think hes young too - we have not heard from him, no photos, etc

maybe hes illegal and thats why theyre hesitant to say too much?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122105 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:38 pm to
Did anyone watch the 60 mins report on this last night?

The police who got to the room, where the shooter was, were all from different departments. They had to come up with a plan on the spot. They had to use explosives to get in because the shooter had bolted the doors shut. If I remember correctly, the security guard was up there responding to something else.

The shooter actually had a gun on a bi-pod, on the ground, pointing towards the entrance.

One of the police said that as soon as they entered, he saw the body of the shooter and with the amount of guns in the room, he thought for sure there were going to be other people in there, but it was just him.

He was using one of those rolling trays the cleaning people used, to put cameras on so we had eyes in the hallway as well and that it was obviously something that took days to set up.

There was 12 mins between the first shot and when the police got in there. If you think about it, that is a pretty good response. These guys had to come together, get to the 32nd floor, develop a plan. Luckily one of the guys were a member of SWAT who happened to hear it on the radio, who had explosives on him, that was used to get in.

They were not sure exactly when he killed himself, but the shooting had gone of for 10 mins. It is just an assumption, but with him killing himself, there is a possibility he underestimated the time in which they would get to him and that his exit planned seemed to be him trying to blend in on his way out as everyone would be going up.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12680 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:38 pm to
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Over a week and we still don't know shite. I wonder if the "you aren't entitled to the investigation" crowd is still breathing


Don't worry. You are still ridiculous for your earlier posts.

That said, it's really odd to be getting drastic changes on basics like the timeline, or evasive answers on the phones this deep in.

It doesn't have to be one or the other- you and the police can both be terrible
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18406 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:58 pm to
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You are still ridiculous for your earlier posts.



What was ridiculous about my earlier posts? Because they seem to be ever so popular now
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:20 pm to
nvm
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 10:22 pm
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38444 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

A) they truly don't know anything.


Doubtful.

quote:

B) There were accomplice(s), but they can't find them, and don't want to announce it because they will be overwhelmed with people reporting suspicious behavior. Making it harder to actually find who they are looking for.


The most likely scenario.

quote:

C) there were other shooters, but they know if they announce it, pandemonium would ensue. Civilian militias looking for them...etc.


Second most likely scenario.

quote:

D) he had help, and is connected to a larger organization with people in the U.S. and they are pulling the loose thread that is Stephen Paddock.



Third most likely scenario.

quote:

E) they know the motive, but don't want to release it because people either wouldn't believe it, it would make them angry, or he did it because of something that is classified but he was aware of because he had worked for a defense contractor.


They definitely know the motive. I have no idea why they won't release it.

quote:

F) they truly don't know anything.


Doubtful.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16384 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:43 pm to
Didn't they say that a billboard was going up to ask for help from the public?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177263 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 10:51 pm to
Has it been discussed whether Paddock was a lizard person?
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40811 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:01 pm to
No, but we are fairly certain the illegal alien/dreamer security guard was the actual shooter who targeted Trump voters.

ETA: Paddock was running guns for the CIA to illegals similar to fast and furious and Jesus was the contact. Jesus figured it out, sets up a big buy on a night with a perfect target. Kills Paddock, does the shooting, puts one in his leg and tries to escape as the hero.

Case closed.
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 11:05 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:19 pm to
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Will we find out what his assets were at some point? Will the brother let them out? I'm still thinking he might have gambled away his money.


That's my theory and I am standing by it, he had 5 million net income in 2015 from a selling a apartment complex, after taxes that gave him a nest egg of around 3 million, he blew it on hookers, gambling, and living large, then having been a little schizo for most of his life decides to go out with a bang. This article by Reuters lays out some of his finances, the guy has always been a compulsive gambler, he probably never banked any of his income from the apartment complex.

LINK
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
87464 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 11:44 pm to
This shite took a left turn after today's press conference
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39220 posts
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:05 am to
How the frick does a security guard not have a radio? That's the ONE thing they will always have. Otherwise, what's the point?
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