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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:34 pm to VaBamaMan
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:34 pm to VaBamaMan
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I think conspiracy nuts are going way too far, but anyone that believes the information given out by the sheriff up to this point in time, hasn't gone far enough.
ya
unless theyve backed down from the "200 shots fired at Campos" explanation, that is also quite bizarre
200 shots? 6 minutes before the "main" shooting? and no one reported this?
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:35 pm to Chad504boy
Bellagio shooter
I dont have time to keep up with this thread in its entirety so I apologize if this has already been posted. its worth watching again even if it has been.
I dont have time to keep up with this thread in its entirety so I apologize if this has already been posted. its worth watching again even if it has been.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:35 pm to OceanMan
Yet he was helping clear rooms after bit couldn't get help. Dude was in on it or something else is up
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:36 pm to Chad504boy
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theyve given us very little info and everything spoken has been bullshite and orchestrated
I agree. I don't think it takes a conspiracy nut to see that there is info being withheld. It has felt that way since day 1
I understand keeping things under wraps, but it all seems way too blatant.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:37 pm to OceanMan
for whatever the reason, the "Campos is a hero narrative" has fallen apart
so its now being rewritten
so its now being rewritten
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:41 pm to AUTiger45
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AUTiger45
Video TL;DR?
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:41 pm to rocket31
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for whatever the reason, the "Campos is a hero narrative" has fallen apart
so its now being rewritten
This is all so fricking bizarre.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:46 pm to OceanMan
If I understand the time line, there is now 5 or 6 minutes between the security guard encounter and the firing on the crowd.
Maybe he was just getting set up with the cameras and the security guard just happened to hit the 32nd floor by chance. He panics, shoots the guard, then has to break out the windows, set up the shooting platforms (flipped chairs? Never heard these explained), and stack/position mags & guns.
So everything is rushed now, shits not working like he planned with the fuel tanks etc., and he grows frustrated as I'm sure he played this out and calculated many times in his mind. Says frick it and blows the back of his head off.
Maybe he was just getting set up with the cameras and the security guard just happened to hit the 32nd floor by chance. He panics, shoots the guard, then has to break out the windows, set up the shooting platforms (flipped chairs? Never heard these explained), and stack/position mags & guns.
So everything is rushed now, shits not working like he planned with the fuel tanks etc., and he grows frustrated as I'm sure he played this out and calculated many times in his mind. Says frick it and blows the back of his head off.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:51 pm to TigersSEC2010
Smelled two days after it happened and smells even more now, doesn't take a tin hat to know they are withholding information at the least and more than likely flat out being dishonest about certain items.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:56 pm to TxWadingFool
anything juicy on reddit or 4chan?
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:56 pm to TxWadingFool
It certainly does! And I don’t believe that the security guard doesn’t have a radio or any communication device. What use are they if they don’t have that much? I’m not buying it.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:00 pm to TxWadingFool
I think the security guard was in on it. He manned one side and paddock manned the other. After 10 minutes, dude shoots himself in the leg after firing off 200 rounds at the door.
The only thing is they said he recorded himself. How the security guard isn't in the video may be a mystery. I thought the sheriff said there was a second shooter. So it could be paddock had the camera set up on him. The second shooter was not seen and exited the room after going through several rounds.
The only thing is they said he recorded himself. How the security guard isn't in the video may be a mystery. I thought the sheriff said there was a second shooter. So it could be paddock had the camera set up on him. The second shooter was not seen and exited the room after going through several rounds.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:05 pm to rocket31
Guy in room below shooter says he didn't hear a gunshot "at the security guard" before rounds fired at the concert....
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:05 pm to Lickitty Split
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I think the security guard was in on it. He manned one side and paddock manned the other. After 10 minutes, dude shoots himself in the leg after firing off 200 rounds at the door.
The only thing is they said he recorded himself. How the security guard isn't in the video may be a mystery. I thought the sheriff said there was a second shooter. So it could be paddock had the camera set up on him. The second shooter was not seen and exited the room after going through several rounds.
Quite an interesting theory. Not out of the realm of possibilities either. Them completely dropping the hero narrative leads me to believe he either go lucky and stumbled on it, or he was in on it.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:05 pm to Clyde Tipton
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If I understand the time line, there is now 5 or 6 minutes between the security guard encounter and the firing on the crowd. Maybe he was just getting set up with the cameras and the security guard just happened to hit the 32nd floor by chance. He panics, shoots the guard, then has to break out the windows, set up the shooting platforms (flipped chairs? Never heard these explained), and stack/position mags & guns. So everything is rushed now, shits not working like he planned with the fuel tanks etc., and he grows frustrated as I'm sure he played this out and calculated many times in his mind. Says frick it and blows the back of his head off.
You should work for Vegas PD. Sounds exactly like what they want you to think
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:09 pm to TxWadingFool
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more than likely flat out being dishonest about certain items.
ya, im assuming we have hotel security footage of "Campos being shot 6 minutes before ..." so now they have to come clean with this information.
since Campos is not out cashing in on his new-found fame, its safe to assume hes being held privately, maybe even as a suspect...?
potentially, Campos' story keeps changing and theyve only been able to verify the truth now? idk
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:10 pm to Clyde Tipton
So if that's what happened, why lie about the timeline to begin with??
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:16 pm to CheniereTiger108
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So if that's what happened, why lie about the timeline to begin with??
Possibilities:
1) Total incompetence by the LVMPD and FBI
OR
2) We are actively being lied to
I want to believe it's #1, but it's beginning to look more and more like it's #2.
If we're being lied to...why?
If it was ISIS or a foreign terrorist, Trump would be shouting it from the rooftops even if it compromised the investigation.
If it were a domestic terrorist, the FBI folks that dislike Trump would've leaked it.
If it were a conspiracy involving our intelligence agencies, they would've forged a suicide note or something and confirmed that it was just a crazy old man that lost his shite.
This is getting weirder by the day.
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:17 pm to CheniereTiger108
So is the a legitimate chance of a 2nd shooter?
Or is this talk all some Alex Jones level shite?
Or is this talk all some Alex Jones level shite?
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:18 pm to CheniereTiger108
also just spitballing...but knowing what we know of todays media.
campos is a latino right? a hero? Trump getting a handshake with this guy would be huge PR, yes?
yet, we have nothing. zero.
and because we have nothing, why isnt there outrage from the "liberal" media?
campos is a latino right? a hero? Trump getting a handshake with this guy would be huge PR, yes?
yet, we have nothing. zero.
and because we have nothing, why isnt there outrage from the "liberal" media?
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