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Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by rocket31
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Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:34 pm to
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I think conspiracy nuts are going way too far, but anyone that believes the information given out by the sheriff up to this point in time, hasn't gone far enough.


ya

unless theyve backed down from the "200 shots fired at Campos" explanation, that is also quite bizarre

200 shots? 6 minutes before the "main" shooting? and no one reported this?
This post was edited on 10/9/17 at 8:36 pm
Posted by AUTiger45
The Ham
Member since Oct 2013
4043 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:35 pm to
Bellagio shooter

I dont have time to keep up with this thread in its entirety so I apologize if this has already been posted. its worth watching again even if it has been.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:35 pm to
Yet he was helping clear rooms after bit couldn't get help. Dude was in on it or something else is up
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23185 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:36 pm to
quote:

theyve given us very little info and everything spoken has been bullshite and orchestrated


I agree. I don't think it takes a conspiracy nut to see that there is info being withheld. It has felt that way since day 1

I understand keeping things under wraps, but it all seems way too blatant.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:37 pm to
for whatever the reason, the "Campos is a hero narrative" has fallen apart

so its now being rewritten
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38444 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

AUTiger45


Video TL;DR?
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38444 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:41 pm to
quote:

for whatever the reason, the "Campos is a hero narrative" has fallen apart

so its now being rewritten


This is all so fricking bizarre.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40811 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:46 pm to
If I understand the time line, there is now 5 or 6 minutes between the security guard encounter and the firing on the crowd.

Maybe he was just getting set up with the cameras and the security guard just happened to hit the 32nd floor by chance. He panics, shoots the guard, then has to break out the windows, set up the shooting platforms (flipped chairs? Never heard these explained), and stack/position mags & guns.

So everything is rushed now, shits not working like he planned with the fuel tanks etc., and he grows frustrated as I'm sure he played this out and calculated many times in his mind. Says frick it and blows the back of his head off.

Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
5631 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:51 pm to
Smelled two days after it happened and smells even more now, doesn't take a tin hat to know they are withholding information at the least and more than likely flat out being dishonest about certain items.
Posted by slapahoe
USA
Member since Sep 2009
7477 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:56 pm to
anything juicy on reddit or 4chan?
Posted by iluvlsusports
Somewhere in South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
3673 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 8:56 pm to
It certainly does! And I don’t believe that the security guard doesn’t have a radio or any communication device. What use are they if they don’t have that much? I’m not buying it.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4161 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:00 pm to
I think the security guard was in on it. He manned one side and paddock manned the other. After 10 minutes, dude shoots himself in the leg after firing off 200 rounds at the door.

The only thing is they said he recorded himself. How the security guard isn't in the video may be a mystery. I thought the sheriff said there was a second shooter. So it could be paddock had the camera set up on him. The second shooter was not seen and exited the room after going through several rounds.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:05 pm to
Guy in room below shooter says he didn't hear a gunshot "at the security guard" before rounds fired at the concert....
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38444 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

I think the security guard was in on it. He manned one side and paddock manned the other. After 10 minutes, dude shoots himself in the leg after firing off 200 rounds at the door.

The only thing is they said he recorded himself. How the security guard isn't in the video may be a mystery. I thought the sheriff said there was a second shooter. So it could be paddock had the camera set up on him. The second shooter was not seen and exited the room after going through several rounds.


Quite an interesting theory. Not out of the realm of possibilities either. Them completely dropping the hero narrative leads me to believe he either go lucky and stumbled on it, or he was in on it.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23185 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:05 pm to
quote:

If I understand the time line, there is now 5 or 6 minutes between the security guard encounter and the firing on the crowd. Maybe he was just getting set up with the cameras and the security guard just happened to hit the 32nd floor by chance. He panics, shoots the guard, then has to break out the windows, set up the shooting platforms (flipped chairs? Never heard these explained), and stack/position mags & guns. So everything is rushed now, shits not working like he planned with the fuel tanks etc., and he grows frustrated as I'm sure he played this out and calculated many times in his mind. Says frick it and blows the back of his head off.


You should work for Vegas PD. Sounds exactly like what they want you to think
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

more than likely flat out being dishonest about certain items.


ya, im assuming we have hotel security footage of "Campos being shot 6 minutes before ..." so now they have to come clean with this information.

since Campos is not out cashing in on his new-found fame, its safe to assume hes being held privately, maybe even as a suspect...?

potentially, Campos' story keeps changing and theyve only been able to verify the truth now? idk



Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:10 pm to
So if that's what happened, why lie about the timeline to begin with??
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
42260 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

So if that's what happened, why lie about the timeline to begin with??


Possibilities:

1) Total incompetence by the LVMPD and FBI
OR
2) We are actively being lied to

I want to believe it's #1, but it's beginning to look more and more like it's #2.

If we're being lied to...why?

If it was ISIS or a foreign terrorist, Trump would be shouting it from the rooftops even if it compromised the investigation.

If it were a domestic terrorist, the FBI folks that dislike Trump would've leaked it.

If it were a conspiracy involving our intelligence agencies, they would've forged a suicide note or something and confirmed that it was just a crazy old man that lost his shite.

This is getting weirder by the day.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
143773 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:17 pm to
So is the a legitimate chance of a 2nd shooter?

Or is this talk all some Alex Jones level shite?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/9/17 at 9:18 pm to
also just spitballing...but knowing what we know of todays media.

campos is a latino right? a hero? Trump getting a handshake with this guy would be huge PR, yes?

yet, we have nothing. zero.

and because we have nothing, why isnt there outrage from the "liberal" media?
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