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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:21 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91846 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:21 am to
Serial number traced back to original purchase

Makes sense, thanks.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91846 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:24 am to
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Wonder how they lured her back. Must have scared the shite out of her



It's also entirely possible she's completely innocent and came back on her own in order to clear up her name.

Regardless, we should know more in the next day or two.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68840 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:27 am to
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Was it weird to anyone else how fast we knew knew him and Marilou's name? Especially considering how little we knew about them 24 hours later? I mean, that shite was quick.


I mean they just looked in the system and saw who the room was booked to probably took 30 seconds. They found her players card in the room as well.

From what others have said, sounds like all it would take is 1 MGM employee to look up the room and leak it.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8689 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:28 am to
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Sheriff alludes to potential future prosecution of other individuals and also interestingly makes reference to figuring out how the suspect got "radicalized". Interesting use of terminology...


Did anyone from the media ask him a follow up question to that statement? What was his response?
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
7624 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:31 am to
No. You just go down to the lobby and say who rented this room. It could be known the minute they found what room the gunfire was coming from. He had her player card in the room.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:39 am to
I'm still torn on the ISIS connection. Too many questions left to be answered.
Why did he send money on several occasions to the Philippines?
Most ISIS fighters don't shoot themselves. They either blow themselves up or are killed.
Why did he stop shooting?
What made a seemingly normal 65ish year old man not only plan this for God knows how long but actually go through with it?
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 8:30 am
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45149 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:54 am to
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I think it was something about financial transactions from the casinos
Which consists of anything over $10,000 withdrawal or deposit. For a high roller, seems like that would be a daily occurrence when he's at the casino and no big deal relatively speaking.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45149 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 7:59 am to
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She is a Pinoy looking woman
Yep, looks like a typical rice-picker.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:01 am to
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Is it even a relationship if they don't even live in the same city?

For goodness sake, they are in their 60s. What possible reasons could they have for living in different cities and dating?


Yes. Companionship, traveling partner, etc.
Posted by Hunter6868
Lower 9
Member since Aug 2017
354 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:19 am to
Can someone try and break down or explain the picture of him in the hotel where you can see the lower half of his torso...I'm no conspiracy theorist and as normal as us baws come, but how is his leg under his rifle mounted on the bipod? So you're saying he ended it sitting on the floor with his legs stretched out, with seemingly no field of view out of the window or towards the front door where a breach would have occurred? Unless I've looked at the room layout wrong, it just doesn't make sense to me, but then again nothing does in a situation like this.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25930 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:20 am to
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quote:

Sheriff alludes to potential future prosecution of other individuals and also interestingly makes reference to figuring out how the suspect got "radicalized". Interesting use of terminology...
Did anyone from the media ask him a follow up question to that statement? What was his response?


I don't think it was a question of "how" in the press conference. It was more a question of IF he got radicalized. They want to figure that out as they still have no reported motive.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 8:22 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24267 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:26 am to
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So you're saying he ended it sitting on the floor with his legs stretched out, with seemingly no field of view out of the window or towards the front door


The room was like 1500-2000 sq ft. The windows he was shooting out of may have been in another room completely compared to where he shot himself. Yes its very likely that he shot at the security guard, grabbed the revolver, and paced around for a minute before killing himself. When his body collapsed he fell on a gun.

I mean he had like 20 guns in the room, many lying on the floor. So him falling on a gun is not unlikely at all.
Posted by JetFuelTyga
Born in desert,raised in lion's den
Member since Feb 2016
1799 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:36 am to
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I maintain the stance of no way she didn't know what he was doing


For some reason I am really cheering for her to not be involved at all.

I really want to believe this nutjob was just that.. A man that snapped. No one else involved. No religions. No affiliations.

Seems pretty unlikely at this point, however.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68840 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:43 am to
Any news about press conferences today. From what was said yesterday, they expect to know a lot more within 48 hours of yesterday
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
68103 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:44 am to
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It is still being determined which firearms were used in the shooting. All guns have been traced.

That's it from ATF.


Que? I thought there wasn't a database.


there isn't. when guns are used in a crime and subsequently seized by law enforcement, the agency will call the ATF and initiate a trace.

1. ATF calls the manufacturer, gives them the serial, and finds out which distributor it was sold to.

2. ATF calls the distributor and gives them the serial, and finds out which dealer it was sold to.

3. ATF calls the dealer and has them pull the 4473 (background check form with all the customer's info on it) from their records and they fax it to the ATF.

4. ATF contacts purchaser (if purchaser wasnt the perpetrator of the crime) and tries to determine what happened to the gun.


They're just basically saying that the above process was executed and completed. Guy bought everything legally if they were all successfully traced and had his name on the 4473
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:45 am to
she had to of known something was up with him especially with him buying all those guns over the months. she may of not known he was going to do that attack but I bet she at the very least had a feeling he was going to do something.

an interview with her relatives overseas said that he actually sent her on the trip as a treat or something. but of course they would say something like that.
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17446 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:53 am to
I missed a bunch of pages. Anything on the "note" left.
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17214 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:54 am to
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Which consists of anything over $10,000


Only if it's a cash transaction, which I doubt these were.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91778 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:56 am to
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The windows he was shooting out of may have been in another room completely compared to where he shot himself
Then why are there shell casings all around his corpse?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
40267 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:56 am to
Have you guys seen the video of a shooter on the ground? I’m not really sure what’s going on in this vid. It’s from Facebook.

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