re: Man’s hands fill with cholesterol after eating 6-9lbs of cheese and butter.

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Just like the people that make blanket statements that 'this is the healthiest meal you can possibly eat' with no context that they just spent 2 hours lifting in the gym and needs all that protein for recovery. I don't know what/when they're eating or how many calories they just burned in the gym- all I'm soaying, just like you, is that without context saying'it's ok because it's on the plan' is not always ok.

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There is no adverse cost to the body breaking down protein or fat for energy. Whether you are fueling yourself with carbs or protein/fat doesnt matter. Why is steak and eggs a healthy meal? Several reasons:

1) It provides all the building blocks needed for function and repair of the body. The body cannot produce protein from carbs. It can use protein for energy though

2) Avoidance of foods that might cause inflammation(many plant foods)

3) Its very hard to overeat protein and fat when that is all you are eating. This is obviously anecdotal because I cant pinpoint the exact biomechanical reason for this(though it does exist). I do know for myself, I could easily house 5000 calories in carbs in one day. Doing so with steak and eggs would be extremely hard for me

No bro you don't get it, studies are funded by pharma and the doctors are getting paid to write prescriptions. If you only eat beef and eggs fried in butter then you can't get cancer because only plant inflammation causes cancer bro. You can just starve the cancer cells with beef fat, I heard it on YouTube

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ust like the people that make blanket statements that 'this is the healthiest meal you can possibly eat' with no context

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Why would that fact need context? It's a fact. Feel free to look up the macros and micros in that meal compared to others.

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2 hours lifting in the gym and needs all that protein for recovery.

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You need a lot protein regardless of working out. Do you know what a protein is?

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I don't know what/when they're eating or how many calories they just burned in the gym- all I'm saying, just like you, is that without context saying'it's ok because it's on the plan' is not always ok.

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Again a fact needs no context but you saying he's eating too much does

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I don’t solely trust one doctor. I trust groups of opinions from professionals on a certain field

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Right but the field we are talking about is health so which opinions do you really value. I'd genuinely like to know

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Have high protein diets been around for thousands of years, or have they not?

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Carnivore diet =\= high protein diets

The chasm between this guy's perceived medical knowledge and his actual medical knowledge is massive. Of course he's not alone among carnivore zealots.

He posted this gem yesterday in another thread:

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Literally the mechanism of type 2 is cells getting so big that their receptor for insulin deform.

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Just jaw-droppingly stupid.

If you got diabetes you aren’t healthy whether your 20 or 30 Im doing it strictly because of diabetes and I will reverse it and improve my metabolic health may take longer than a youngster I’m 75

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The chasm between this guy's perceived medical knowledge and his actual medical knowledge is massive. Of course he's not alone among carnivore zealots.

He posted this gem yesterday in another thread:
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Literally the mechanism of type 2 is cells getting so big that their receptor for insulin deform.

Just jaw-droppingly stupid.

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Its been a long time since that particular biology class in college. I remember the professor talking about the excessive fat storage of cells causing problems with the shape of the insulin receptors. Please forgive my jaw-dropping stupidity for being wrong about cell biology. I build houses...so I dont have much time for biology homework

Cell Size and Insulin Resistance: In obesity, fat cells (adipocytes) and muscle cells can become enlarged as they store more fat or glucose. This enlargement can lead to:

Reduced Insulin Receptor Availability: Larger cells may have fewer insulin receptors per unit of surface area, making it harder for insulin to bind and signal effectively.

Altered Cellular Signaling: Enlarged cells can experience stress and dysfunction in their internal signaling pathways, which can impair the insulin receptor's ability to transmit signals properly.

Inflammation and Receptor Function: Enlarged fat cells, especially in obesity, release inflammatory chemicals (like cytokines) that can interfere with insulin receptor function. This inflammation can:

Disrupt the normal structure(hmm) or placement of insulin receptors on the cell surface.

Impair the downstream signaling pathways that insulin receptors activate.

Ectopic Fat Storage: When cells become too large or overwhelmed with fat, the excess fat can spill over into other tissues, like the liver and muscles. This ectopic fat storage is strongly linked to insulin resistance and can further disrupt insulin receptor function.

Structural Changes in Receptors: While the size of the cell doesn’t directly deform the insulin receptor, the metabolic environment created by obesity (e.g., high levels of free fatty acids, inflammation, and oxidative stress) can lead to changes in the receptor’s structure or function over time.

There ya go, though I was right that the size of cells does affect insulin resistance....I did make the jaw droppingly stupid error of saying it was due to size of the cell altering the shape of the receptors...which, obviously...everyone knows this...doesnt necessarily alter the shape and isnt the direct cause of insulin resistance.

I will leave further discussion of cell biology to the geniuses of the OT...who think that eating too much cheese leads to cholesterol making your palms yellow

TLDR Yes im wrong, the food pyramid is the best, pharm companies would never fund studies to support their business, and youll die if you dont eat your carbs(those youtube docs are gonna keel over any time now)

The human race is a crazy one.