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re: Major wildfire in Los Angeles (and Pasadena)

Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:51 am to
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:51 am to
Who in this thread was talking about the eucalyptus trees that were planted in 1800s? He said that they only had about a 200 year life span and when they started dying the 90s is when all hell started breaking loose. He said there was a study done that said if all the invasive trees were removed then Cali would be just fine.

That was the coolest piece of info in the whole thread that just got overlooked.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 10:24 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:53 am to
i am not disputing the eucalyptus tree theory, australia has terrible forest fires, but the entire west coast and canada have issues with forest fires...it's nature
Posted by Packer
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:54 am to
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The fires start for two reasons… either wind knocks down power lines and those spark, or homeless people start fires to keep warm and the extreme winds make them lose control and away we go.



Could be a lot of other reasons too. A 2019 fire here started when a garbage truck dumped it's garbage on the side of the road because it was on fire. The fire by me this year started in 100 degree heat when Caltrans was doing work on the side of the road, their exhaust pipe got too hot, and started a fire. My MIL had a fire start by her when a hot lug nut came off a semi truck and started the brush on fire.

ETA: My money is on homeless for the Hollywood Hills fire though
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 9:56 am
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:54 am to
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All in the Northern part of the state, where no massive outbreaks are happening.


Well you can’t do a control burn in an active wildfire outbreak.
Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:55 am to
Forest fires are common up in Montana, Idaho and that area too. Smoky mountains get them as well in the dry season.
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:57 am to
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The fires start for two reasons… either wind knocks down power lines and those spark, or homeless people start fires to keep warm and the extreme winds make them lose control and away we go.


Lighting strikes too. I’ve always thought that there should be tall lighting rod towers every 50 miles in the forest to reduce fires from lighting strikes.
This post was edited on 1/9/25 at 9:59 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:57 am to

Humidity, winds, how dry the surface is... different parts of the state allow for different measure, I'm guessing. CA is huge, after all. But I'll bet next to none of it was done because of environmental or DEI funding nonsense.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:58 am to
yep i just think california are worse bc of the winds and population.
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:59 am to

Posted by LSUBoo
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:00 am to
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yep i just think california are worse bc of the winds and population.


Also a much longer dry season in southern California. More opportunity, more people, strong winds. Yep.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:01 am to
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The city is continuing to show everyone where the real priorities lie.
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:01 am to
The Santa Ana winds, the geography, and the dryness
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:02 am to
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Lighting strikes too


Happens, but less common in Southern California where lightning is rare
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:04 am to


Tell me you just discovered Fire Watch yesterday and are now a fire expert without telling me.

I bet you were a bollard expert last week.
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:04 am to
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The city is continuing to show everyone where the real priorities lie.



That's the most Santa Monica thing I've ever seen lol
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:06 am to
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After looking at the Watch Duty app; I’ve come to the conclusion that whole idea that California doesn’t do prescribed controlled burns is a myth. They have over 40 control burns going on at this moment.


Well......yeah.

Yet, I get downvoted to shite for saying it. The Fed, State, local, and native entities burned more than a million acres in 2024. That total doesn't include most of the private land that was burned. The Feds burned more last year than they had in any year they have records for. They've also had a bunch of pile burns that don't show up in the acreage totals.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:06 am to
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The Santa Ana winds, the geography, and the dryness


when is the rainy season and how bad will the risk for mudslides be for the areas that burned?
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:07 am to
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when is the rainy season


Jan and Feb is when it normally rains in SoCal.

Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 1/9/25 at 10:08 am to
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